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Battle of the Franchises
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quanchi112
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Originally posted by Nephthys
Vader ripped Hans blaster right out of his hand.

Precog. If they can tell where a blaster bolt will be they can tell where Russel will be and already be cutting him in half when he gets there.

That was Han Solo who wasn't half as skilled as Jango Fett.

There are limitations to how quickly they can react. Russell's speed seems greater than their greatest feats of reaction.

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Originally posted by COG Veteran
What Nephthys said. Plus I never understood why jedis don't just spam the force against enemies, smashing them and whatnot. Like I said, smart way to fight.

Obviously because it does not work that way.

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Obviously because it does not work that way.

But it would make the fight a lot easier for the one who does do that. (shruggs)

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Precog and speed. Those blasers have been calced to more or less supersonic.They'll be able to take them, from then its game over.. for anyone here tbh.

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Originally posted by COG Veteran
But it would make the fight a lot easier for the one who does do that. (shruggs)

It isn't how it it is portrayed in the films.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Precog and speed. Those blasers have been calced to more or less supersonic.They'll be able to take them, from then its game over.. for anyone here tbh.

Based on whose calculations ?

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on whose calculations ?

People on other sites.. or here, don't remember the who or where, just the results. Could check up on it later.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
People on other sites.. or here, don't remember the who or where, just the results. Could check up on it later.

To me its obvious as we can't even see Russell's movements as they are a blur but can see the lasers movements.

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Jun 27th, 2013 02:28 AM

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Lasers glow.

It is easier to see something so grossly incandescent.

Though I doubt they are supersonic myself.

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BloodRain
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Can't be ****ed looking for it atm, though I know it came from a battlefield scene and how fast the blasts travelled across the large area.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Can't be ****ed looking for it atm, though I know it came from a battlefield scene and how fast the blasts travelled across the large area.

You are avoiding the obvious though which is we can't follow Russell's movements but we can follow the lasers.

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Would have replied but Neme already covered it nicely.

'sides glowing things, basing things solely off visuals is faulty especially when comparing to another fictions. To each style their own, same reason in some fictions we can't see bullets in mid-air but can in others. TB vamps are hitting supersonic at best.

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quanchi112
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Originally posted by BloodRain
Would have replied but Neme already covered it nicely.

'sides glowing things, basing things solely off visuals is faulty especially when comparing to another fictions. To each style their own, same reason in some fictions we can't see bullets in mid-air but can in others. TB vamps are hitting supersonic at best.

TB vamps have dodged bullets which are faster than lasers. They aren't faster than Russell's movements. Even if he glowed we wouldn't be able to decipher his movements.

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Latter part is you comparing a fictions portrayal of speed, to which I point back to bullets being shown in some media but not in others.

Maryann and Eric (for him barely) only did so, yet both can be attributed to aim-dodging and showed sub-bullet speed in reacting to it. Then again we have several vamps routinely tagged with bullets, arrows and net-guns. They're supersonic at the very best.

>Can't find the Mach 1 Jango Fett blaster speed calc, but the ones from AotC and RotS had them in the battlefield part covering hundreds of meters in split seconds. Easily supersonic.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Latter part is you comparing a fictions portrayal of speed, to which I point back to bullets being shown in some media but not in others.

Maryann and Eric (for him barely) only did so, yet both can be attributed to aim-dodging and showed sub-bullet speed in reacting to it. Then again we have several vamps routinely tagged with bullets, arrows and net-guns. They're supersonic at the very best.

>Can't find the Mach 1 Jango Fett blaster speed calc, but the ones from AotC and RotS had them in the battlefield part covering hundreds of meters in split seconds. Easily supersonic.

Maryanne easily did so and Eric did so as well. Bullets are faster than those laser shots. We also have many Jedi tagged by order 66 and see Yoda caught off guard by a slow hand raise lightning blast.

Nope. We can see them travel unlike vampires. Not even close.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Maryanne easily did so and Eric did so as well. Bullets are faster than those laser shots. We also have many Jedi tagged by order 66 and see Yoda caught off guard by a slow hand raise lightning blast.

Nope. We can see them travel unlike vampires. Not even close.

Mary was with the gun pointed at her (aim dodging rank, still impressive) and Eric ended up moving as fast as the running wolf.

Your argument to seeing blasters go hundreds of meters in split seconds is a nah, just cause you dont want it?
The Battle of Geonosis; we clearly see blasters bolts covering the area in split seconds.
Jango Fett's bolts travelled about 40 ft in a single frame (just got the frames for it).
Both are giving supersonic figures. If you want to complain how bolts wider, far longer and a great magnitude brighter than a bullet can bee seen where a bullet can't, knock yourself out.

But okay lets play the 'use lower feats only' game: Arrows tag vampires. Net-guns tag vampires. Humans with stakes tag vampires.

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Jun 27th, 2013 06:27 PM

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I don't trust any Star Wars OBD calc as a rule, to be blunt.

They look for only the demonstrations of blaster speed that support their case, rather than the ones that show them as sub-sonic.

Like here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-iHuz-mpq4

12 seconds in.

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BloodRain
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The Jango one I checked is definitely over 10m in 1 frame. In you're one they're going around 100ft(ish?) in 0.12s.. only 3/4 supersonic, though whats the issue with these blasters being near-sonic and Jango's or the droids' ones being base supersonic?

Its the over Ma150 ones some claim that I'd agree with you.

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Droidekas are droids.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Mary was with the gun pointed at her (aim dodging rank, still impressive) and Eric ended up moving as fast as the running wolf.

Your argument to seeing blasters go hundreds of meters in split seconds is a nah, just cause you dont want it?
The Battle of Geonosis; we clearly see blasters bolts covering the area in split seconds.
Jango Fett's bolts travelled about 40 ft in a single frame (just got the frames for it).
Both are giving supersonic figures. If you want to complain how bolts wider, far longer and a great magnitude brighter than a bullet can bee seen where a bullet can't, knock yourself out.

But okay lets play the 'use lower feats only' game: Arrows tag vampires. Net-guns tag vampires. Humans with stakes tag vampires.

We see vampires fly off screen out of the area unable to keep up. We see them run off in the distance far faster as well. Bullets are faster.

I cited the most powerful Jedi without any distractions being tagged against a single opponent. Russell is far faster, stronger, and ruthless enough to kill them before precog says duck.

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