Yeah, those Thanos fans are just the worst. How dare they defend him against herald and trans level beings?
Also the denial is on every side. It's not exclusive to what you're implying is entirely Marvel.
So basically you think Ultraman beats Thanos via making up feats?
This is true. Ulty is a high herald, *maybe* low-trans, depending how highly you think of Black Adam... But who cares? Thanos eats high heralds for breakfast and shits out low-transers after his morning coffee.
I love Ulty, but he is simply outclassed across the board. Frankly, the rest of his feats in Forever Evil would have to be asininely uber for him to even compare to Thanos-- but right now this isn't even a challenge.
What I'm saying is Ultraman has no combat feats to make Thanos look like a statue. And considering Thanos reacted to "warp speed" Fallen One while giggling, I doubt if Ultaman ever gets those feats, but I digress.
Hell, even his last appearance had him bat "super speed Hulk", and effortlessly bat a Thor out of the air who was in the process of attempting to cheap shot Thanos.
You're dealing with one part of the equation while ignoring the other. From what we've seen, Thanos CAN react to Ultraman. That doesn't mean we get to make up a speed level and act like Thanos can't possibly react to it due to a simple lack of feats on Ultraman's part.
Yeah, Hulk was moving fast enough to very nearly overwhelm Proxy--she even commented on how fast he was in the very same comic, iirc--yet Thanos swatted him away mid-blitz, with very little effort.
This is the same Hulk who is also strong enough to sock time, mind you... But Thanos treated him as though he was a minor inconvenience.
Differences being :
a) UM was hit once, Thanos twice
b) UM bled afterwards, Thanos didn't
c) Thor's lightening attacks have a proven history, DCNu BA's don't.
Thanos wins 10/10.
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While I can see your line of reasoning. I don't think Thanos has faced right out speedsters with super strength, I mean yes hulk has some degree of Super speed and yes his reflexes are above normal, but nothing compared to the reflexes someone like Ultraman should have. Galactus Heralds while fast in raw speed they lack the speed reflexes and by that I mean moving their hands at super speed or doing complex task at super speed and often they are not displayed like that.
Let use for example someone who has moved at with super speed around Thanos and it has basically danced around him. That is what I am seeing in a fight like this.
Lets be honest, characters that can move at super speed get tagged in comics, not because the other characters have super speed reflexes too, but because the story requires them to be tagged by a slower opponent, other wise there is no point to the fight.
And the same thing I think about Ultraman I stated my feeling towards Hyperion, that his speed was being nerfed down vs Thanos or his henchman.
Hyperion had the power to blitz any of those characters in the comic, why does he forgets he has that power? Why is not displayed?
If Hyperion had out right blitzed Thanos and Thanos had showed the reflexes to catch up and counter his blitz, then yes, I will agree Thanos will beat the crap out of Ultraman, but somehow someway characters with super speed and super strength often forget they have this type of power and that they can use them in combination with their other powers, don't you agree?
So.....Ultraman can win if we discount Thanos' battles due to his Marvel origins, ignore Thanos' speed feats and pretend that Ultraman has blitzing feats necessary to beat someone like Thanos because......because....Superman
Yes, that sounds about right. Ultraman wins because Superman.
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