Gambits powers at that time still had that new smell going on. You know how it is when the comic companies showcase their new toy? Well Gambit had the glow at that time. Unless you believe that Captain America is more durable than Gladiator? Cannonball, and Speedball are incredibly powerful when their powers are focused properly. You seem to be leaving out a lot of context here . So no Firelord does not hit harder than they do when their full potential is showcased.
Just so that you are not confused with when I say "hits harder", I meant in terms of striking power (punching), because it is highly unlikely, that Firelord would be able to keep Gladiator from turning this into a laser show, filled with more fisticuffs than he has ever seen at one time.
__________________
Last edited by Stoic on Apr 10th, 2014 at 08:47 AM
first of all i was joking at the guy who made a note about spider man beating firelord.
second of all Lol at you for actually trying to imply gambit or canonball actually hit harder than firelord who 4 shotted surfer and overall is a herald level being.
hits harder means hitting the target with any power they has, it can be a fire attack, it can be energy blast, hitting is hitting this is not Rocky balboa.
Why are you laughing? Is there something funny? Lets try to keep this less personal and more comic related OK? Gladiator doesn't have to allow Firelord to get off any energy blasts. He's the faster one of the two in terms of combat speed. I'm also pretty sure that he could keep up in flight speed as well. Speedball nearly flattened Terrax with one focused impact. just goes to show you that Heralds have taken their lumps by less than herald level characters.
Titles mean nothing to the writers that wrote these stories, which is exactly why Spiderman beat Firelord up. You should try to see both sides or you will only get half of the picture. The writers hardly ever visit these forums, and the ones that do, only take the shit blogged about with a grain of salt.
You were the one trying to poke fun of Gladiator's low moments, so I decided to show you that all toons have their day in the sun.
Firelord gave Spider-man some troubles, while Gladiator only survived against Wolverine because Logan held back. Since Spidey >>>> Logan, then Firelord beats Glads.
No he wasn't Abhi, and even if he was, he was still very new. It doesn't matter how many books went by. All that matters is the amount of showings he had. So in all of those so called 100 books that were out, how many showings did he have? If you're going to say something try not to leave out the finer details. It comes off very deceitful.
why was i laughing? if you know something about firelord, then you shouldnt ask me why am i laughing about someone, bringing spiderman beating him as anything but PIS.
so you are actually calling it legit that spider man can beat firelord? as well as him beaing able to beat hulk? then why isnt it legit for gambit to beat gladiator? double standard?
only thing is, almost all gladiator moments are like those. the guy is a walking punching bag (or better yet, flying punching bag).
on paper he should be able to do this and that, but once he gets into a fight he gets owned.
What scene are you talking about? I'm talking about Gambit and the deck of cards that took out Gladiator. During that time he did not take the spotlight 100 times. In fact most people reading it likely thought that he was far more than he is now. Also what does all of that have to do with the topic? Semantics? Really? Man focus is a word dude.
It happens to all of the characters, the only reason that it hasn't happened more to Firelord is because his appearances are ew and far between. There was certainly context to Cannonball beating him, and I bet the hit that Gladiator took from Cannonball would have KO'd Firelord, after all Gladiator's own punch was redirected back at him due to Cannonballs peculiar power. I brought up Speedball, because he did a similar move on Terrax. My point? All characters get beaten up. The Silver Surfer was subdued by the Black Panther, Cap KO'd the Hulk, Juggernaut was clowned by Longshot, Ultraboy was clowned by the Karater Kid... the list goes on, and on.
This however has no bearing on Gladiator at his best taking on Firelord if we lose the low ball moments. Gladiator was also on a team that always appeared to be oppressive, and plot dictated his losses most of the time. I fail to see how a softy like Firelord would possess enough strength to beat someone nearly twice his strength.
What. Did. I. Lie. About? Who the **** cares he wasn't in spotlight? His powers were well defined by then and he was a street level character. In fact Logan shrugged off his cards some issues before that.
Yes, you know, the guy who really does have dynamic strength? The guy who its stated by writers, characters like the watcher, reed richards and the x-men such as " the more confident he is the stronger and more powerful he gets? Or is as strong as he believes he is? The strongest member of the annihilators? The one who's DNA gave a clone of thanos strength that was 4x greater than thanos? So, yes, twice might be a lower number. Gladiator takes his head off.
Cannonball redirected gladiators own punching power back at him. ( did nothing ). Gambit hit gladiator with a fully charged deck of cards. Not one single punch. Spiderman raped firelord with his fists and his own laughable strength.
So does many characters like Rage and Wonder Man. Its the matter of what they do with that factor. Gladiator gets his ass beat with that factor. So? She-Hulk gets stronger with anger too. Is she going to beat Thor? That would've helped him a lot in last 35 fights where he got his ass beaten. Never stated. And Xavier's DNA made another clone equally as powerful as Thanos and Thanos' DNA made Omega twice as powerful as Galactus. Xavier=Thanos in strength and Thanos=Galactus in power? Not to mention Warlock was wrong, Thanos himself said the clones were as strong as him. Hahaha. Phoenix said Firelord was nearly as powerful as her and could've killed her. Fast Forward and some shitty avatars nearly killed Gladiator. So Firelord incinerates Gladiator.
KMC Community Forums
Apr 10th, 2014 08:27 AM
. So no Firelord does not hit harder than they do when their full potential is showcased. 
