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Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Pfhahahahahahaaa!!! laughing

Utterly laughable! Consider this, Jaws' snout is able to punch holes in a 50 foot boat while traveling at 20 knots. There is literally nothing Khan can do to it. He has no leverage anyways.



Are you saying that Khan is more ruthless than ordinary humans? You have not seen much in the way of human history then... I can think of quite a few men with more ruthlessness and aggression than Khan, and yet still none hold a candle to a hungry Jaws on the prowl.
So khan can't rip out his eyes. You're trolling. He also can damage jaws by attacking jaws.

Khan is superior to humans in terms of everything. Physically on another level. That is what I referred to specifically, kid.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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So khan can't rip out his eyes. You're trolling. He also can damage jaws by attacking jaws.


He has to be able to reach the eyes. Even Quint, a big guy, with a machete, couldn't reach them. You are severely underestimating the sheer size of Jaws.

And just what do you think he can do? he is listed as being 5 times the strength of normal peak human men right? That's not enough to even pierce the creatures skin. I'm pretty sure I just mentioned how Jaws, a 3 tonne 25 foot shark, was poking holes in the hull of the Orca at less than 20 knots, that's a force measured in tonnes of force PSI. Khan barely knocked a mook redshirt 15 feet with a wound up soccer style kick. And that wasn't hindered by water. Here, he is hindered by water.

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Khan is superior to humans in terms of everything. Physically on another level. That is what I referred to specifically, kid.


Except it doesn't mean shit to a creature than can literally rip people to pieces, and not just with it's teeth.

Oh, and that's really very cute for a man who is barely 2 years older, yet acts like he is 28 years younger than myself.


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He has to be able to reach the eyes. Even Quint, a big guy, with a machete, couldn't reach them. You are severely underestimating the sheer size of Jaws.

And just what do you think he can do? he is listed as being 5 times the strength of normal peak human men right? That's not enough to even pierce the creatures skin. I'm pretty sure I just mentioned how Jaws, a 3 tonne 25 foot shark, was poking holes in the hull of the Orca at less than 20 knots, that's a force measured in tonnes of force PSI. Khan barely knocked a mook redshirt 15 feet with a wound up soccer style kick. And that wasn't hindered by water. Here, he is hindered by water.



Except it doesn't mean shit to a creature than can literally rip people to pieces, and not just with it's teeth.

Oh, and that's really very cute for a man who is barely 2 years older, yet acts like he is 28 years younger than myself.
Comparing a big guy to Khan is hilarious.

Khan will ruthlessly blind the beast first off and then systemically beat it down.

Khan is too quick and too intelligent to allow that to occur.


You're like a toddler to me. You're harmless and self loathing. I laugh at you.


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It's 5x normal human, not 5x peak human.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Comparing a big guy to Khan is hilarious.


WTF? Are you saying Khan can somehow stretch his arms?

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Khan will ruthlessly blind the beast first off and then systemically beat it down.


#1: He can't reach the eyes, he's not fast enough to get at it's sides in the water, and, even if he managed it, the Shark's other senses still work fine.

#2: He can't "beat it down", he does not have the physical strength even if he were on dry land.

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Khan is too quick and too intelligent to allow that to occur.


His speed is not going to work that well underwater or treading the surface. he isn't the Flash, so he can't do the propeller legs, nor can he run on it. How can he prevent it, when his opponent is far faster and is more accurate in the water?

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You're like a toddler to me. You're harmless and self loathing. I laugh at you.


Stop looking and laughing at a mirror then, I'm over here, and we are supposed to be debating. I have no interest in your trash talking or your shit flinging.


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WTF? Are you saying Khan can somehow stretch his arms?



#1: He can't reach the eyes, he's not fast enough to get at it's sides in the water, and, even if he managed it, the Shark's other senses still work fine.

#2: He can't "beat it down", he does not have the physical strength even if he were on dry land.



His speed is not going to work that well underwater or treading the surface. he isn't the Flash, so he can't do the propeller legs, nor can he run on it. How can he prevent it, when his opponent is far faster and is more accurate in the water?



Stop looking and laughing at a mirror then, I'm over here, and we are supposed to be debating. I have no interest in your trash talking or your shit flinging.
khan can move around you dingleberry. Acting like he's unable to move is trolling, kiddo.

Again he can move around. laughing out loud

Yes, he can due to being able to crush a skull.

He is superior to people who have been able to survive for moments despite being surprised underwater.

Keep backing down to me. It's an ego trip.


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Post feats that prove Khan is as mobile in the water as you're claiming.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Khan gets eaten.

Being underwter greatly reduces Khan's punching power.

This isn't a human; it's a 25 foot fish with much denser anatomy than a human being.


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Post feats that prove Khan is as mobile in the water as you're claiming.
Watch the film.


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Post feats that prove Khan is as mobile in the water as you're claiming.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Post feats that prove Khan is as mobile in the water as you're claiming.
Again you need to watch the films. Kirk himself would swim circles around jaws and khan is greater at everything than he is.


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khan can move around you dingleberry. Acting like he's unable to move is trolling, kiddo.

Again he can move around. laughing out loud


Not to any significant degree. The human form wasn't meant for underwater travel. The average human swims at about 5 feet per second, if I'm going to be generous and say he can do 5 times that, that's 25 feet, per second, which is ridiculous, as Khan's speed is by no means beyond ordinary and was never shown to be, but for the sake of argument, 25 feet per second in the open ocean. A Great White, at average cruising speed is over 60 feet per second, more than double. You are laying a lost dead mans hand here Quan.

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Yes, he can due to being able to crush a skull.


That's not enough. Crushing a human skull is literally small potatoes compared to poking holes in metal and wood ship hulls. The difference in force required is tremendous, and even moreso when you consider that Khan used 2 hands to squeeze, creating an overlay pressure against itself. The Shark's? All it's force was going one way. Not to mention it was literally able to DRAG the ORCA around when it was tied to it.

If you are going to rely solely on the skull crush gimmick, you are going to lose, very badly. That is his one and only strength feat. Jaws literally has a LOT more. Ripping piers off their struts, and dragging boats through the water are but some. And lets talk about durability as well. Khan was getting stunned stupid, while full on gunfire and harpoons didn't even slow the Shark down.

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He is superior to people who have been able to survive for moments despite being surprised underwater.


And? So what? He still has no advantages against an apex predator in it's natural environment.

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Keep backing down to me. It's an ego trip.


It's stupid is what it is... What does any of it have to do with the debate?


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Khan drowns.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Not to any significant degree. The human form wasn't meant for underwater travel. The average human swims at about 5 feet per second, if I'm going to be generous and say he can do 5 times that, that's 25 feet, per second, which is ridiculous, as Khan's speed is by no means beyond ordinary and was never shown to be, but for the sake of argument, 25 feet per second in the open ocean. A Great White, at average cruising speed is over 60 feet per second, more than double. You are laying a lost dead mans hand here Quan.



That's not enough. Crushing a human skull is literally small potatoes compared to poking holes in metal and wood ship hulls. The difference in force required is tremendous, and even moreso when you consider that Khan used 2 hands to squeeze, creating an overlay pressure against itself. The Shark's? All it's force was going one way. Not to mention it was literally able to DRAG the ORCA around when it was tied to it.

If you are going to rely solely on the skull crush gimmick, you are going to lose, very badly. That is his one and only strength feat. Jaws literally has a LOT more. Ripping piers off their struts, and dragging boats through the water are but some. And lets talk about durability as well. Khan was getting stunned stupid, while full on gunfire and harpoons didn't even slow the Shark down.



And? So what? He still has no advantages against an apex predator in it's natural environment.



It's stupid is what it is... What does any of it have to do with the debate?
I go by feats and comparisons in the star trek universe not your shitty speculation.

Here is proof of Kirk swimming well beyond your speculative bs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldxE2DLZ-tA


Again, jaws has a lot of weight but can be hurt by someone with khan strength. Hell, a wasp can sting into out flesh despite us being so much stronger and bigger than them its silly.

Khan is a superior predator in all areas to humanity. Every time the shark has been hunted and killed by humans. Khan slaughters this overrated shark.

You're losing this debate very badly.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Post feats that prove Khan is as mobile in the water as you're claiming.
Watch the film.


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