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I hate you so freaking much for that ILS. lmao


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im sorry tbh


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but like she was in a state of peril and had to use a tree to escape tbh

but like her and Satele's physical strikes are meaningless to Savage and Ventress couldn't hit Savage with her saber and Ventress > Satele tbh

yeah like that and the tree situation and it was jace malcom who saved her from being deaded by Malgus tbh

but like SW glass retains nearly all the strength of it's original form tbh and it was a prison cell specifically made of the stuff tbh so like savage basically broke beskar tbh

yeah but like when has satele ever caused obi-wan kenobi or ventress problems tbh she lost to malgus tbh


no

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Actually, I flat out don't buy that the cell was made of beskar. The description of Satine's cell in the novel (where I assume you're getting the beskar from) is different from that seen in the cartoon, so I suggest it's a simple inconsistency. Theres many between the sources as I recall.

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missed this edit tbh
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I'd say he is less agile than Malgus. Malgus can pull off some fancy flips and spins and jump over lightsaber blades.
well

tbh and (please log in to view the image) tbh


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dunno if the youtube video of Savage jumping over hasley's lightsaber showed tbh
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Actually, I flat out don't buy that the cell was made of beskar. The description of Satine's cell in the novel (where I assume you're getting the beskar from) is different from that seen in the cartoon, so I suggest it's a simple inconsistency. Theres many between the sources as I recall.
Satine was in the same cell as the cartoon and the same one as Savage tbh and theres only been like two sources which are TCW and Shadow Conspiracy so it cant be inconsistent tbh
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Satine was in the same cell as the cartoon and the same one as Savage tbh and theres only been like two sources which are TCW and Shadow Conspiracy so it cant be inconsistent tbh


There's differences between how the cell is described in the novel and how it appeared in the cartoon. I don't understand why you think there cannot be inconsistencies between two sources but there are.


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There's differences between how the cell is described in the novel and how it appeared in the cartoon. I don't understand why you think there cannot be inconsistencies between two sources but there are.
The only difference between the sources is that Jason Fry added a desk and chair to Satine's prison cell. Other than that there's nothing to suggest there was an inconsistency, everything else is in sync.

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How can you be sure that's the only difference? The glass certainly doesn't appear to be mandalorian iron, and it's just your opinion that it's some beskar transparisteel, which I don't believe appears anywhere else/ever, instead of another inconsistency.


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How can you be sure that's the only difference? The glass certainly doesn't appear to be mandalorian iron, and it's just your opinion that it's some beskar transparisteel, which I don't believe appears anywhere else/ever, instead of another inconsistency.
I can be sure because there is no other noticeable difference tbh.

Like, it doesn't matter what you think Mandalorian Iron looks like because that's what it was tbh.

It's Jason Fry's opinion that it was mando iron tbh


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I can be sure because there is no other noticeable difference tbh.

Like, it doesn't matter what you think Mandalorian Iron looks like because that's what it was tbh.

It's Jason Fry's opinion that it was mando iron tbh


Other than the novel saying mandalorian iron and the other showing glass. It is noticeably not iron.

And it doesn't matter what you think because it's an inconsistency. Weeeeee!

Jason Fry likely didn't have a screenshot of the cell when he was writing so his description wasn't based off of the cartoon's version. That they contradicted his description makes it void.


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No one cares if you think it is an inconsistency unless you have actual proof it is, stop trying to grasp at straws and focus on one thing myopically because Satele has nothing to compare.


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Carthage, please stop talking to me. I've put you on ignore, as we were told to cease these rivalries. If you continue to harass me in threads I'll just report you.


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Other than the novel saying mandalorian iron and the other showing glass. It is noticeably not iron.
I mean, it's all speculation other than Fry telling us what it is. I could speculate that you'd have to be retarded to leave two Sith in a cell protected by regular glass. So you're basically speculating that the Mandalorians are retards tbh. I guess I'm speculating that Mandalorians having Mandalorian Iron that they use to build prison cells, after going through a process commonly resulting in metals turning into sheets of glass which are nearly as durable as their former forms. Which tbh isn't retarded because prison cells are meant to be tough and Mandalorians have Beskar and Jason Fry agrees with me tbh and it's silly to think Maul and Savage couldn't be expected to get through glass tbh.

Unless you want to suggest it was a weaker form of metal-glass hybrid but tbh you'd be speculating based off of nothing there tbh.


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This is a public forum and you're making public posts, I can respond to the posts you and others make and you can ignore them at your discretion and by utilizing the ignore tool. If you have any problems than by all means report me, because the mod will see I'm talking to your posts and your responding in spite of supposedly having me on ignore.


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I'd also speculate that you'd have to be retarded to only leave two guards in the room with them and to leave them conscious at all given the mental powers and mind tricks force users are known to possess. So maybe they are retarded.


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I'd also speculate that you'd have to be retarded to only leave two guards in the room with them and to leave them conscious at all given the mental powers and mind tricks force users are known to possess. So maybe they are retarded.
Alright bro I concede. The Mandalorians left Maul and Savage behind regular glass and were comfortable leaving only two guards to look after them.

Not a minor plot hole common in fiction, and definitely not Beskar. Oh no, the viable conclusion can only be that the Mandalorians are retards.

no tbh


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Alright bro I concede. The Mandalorians left Maul and Savage behind regular glass and were comfortable leaving only two guards to look after them.

Not a minor plot hole common in fiction, and definitely not Beskar. Oh no, the viable conclusion can only be that the Mandalorians are retards.

no tbh


Dude, its probably transparisteel or reinforced glass. Who the hell even uses real glass in star wars? I'm just saying its totally not confirmed as beskar.


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Dude, its probably transparisteel or reinforced glass. Who the hell even uses real glass in star wars? I'm just saying its totally not confirmed as beskar.
Jason Fry confirmed it was Beskar, and your only speculation for it not being Beskar is that you don't want it to be for the sake of Satele being more powerful than Savage. Like, you have nothing to support your POV, whatsoever. I do. So tbh.


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HEY NEPH LOOK WHAT I FOUND BRO!
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Beskar is a uniquely resistant iron that develops a wide range of properties—and colors—in the hands of skilled metalsmiths. Depending on the alloy, it can take any form from plate, laminate, and wire to foam, mesh, micronized particles, and even a transparent film. Mandalorians jealously guard their beskar-working skills and refuse to sell the formulas for any price; attempts to reproduce finished beskar elsewhere have been disappointing. The ore is found solely on Mandalore, and only Mandalorians know how to work it to maximize its extraordinary properties."

- Strategic Resources of the Galaxy

- aka wookieepedia but shit dude look it up it'll probably be there i sure as shit will if you dont want to


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Jason Fry confirmed it was Beskar, and your only speculation for it not being Beskar is that you don't want it to be for the sake of Satele being more powerful than Savage. Like, you have nothing to support your POV, whatsoever. I do. So tbh.


There's confirmed inconsistencies between the sources. Theres no other examples of beskar being made into transparisteel. Fry wrote the novel before the scene was created and the cells were established. So tbh, I have more support than you do tbh.


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