I wouldn't say that. I'd say Spiderman 1 and 2 had a huge hand in making super heroes as big as they are today. Without that and X-men to give the genre a much needed boost, Marvel might not have had the chance to try Iron Man and go up from there.
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Yes, but how much was marketing cost of Winter Soldier vs ASM 2 $180 million marketing budget? Plus, Cap 2 nearly doubles what Cap 1 made. ASM 2 is following a downward trend in box office sales. We'll see how this goes because Sinister Six better have a good storyline or else it might just cost the studio more money. Really, the SS are only interesting if they can tell a good story, and I highly doubt that Sony can pull it off. It takes a studio like Marvel, who knows and cares about their characters, to put in the right people and story to pull off something like GOTG. And while the GOTG is a B list team, they have plenty of fans compared to the SS. Marvel even relaunch their books to increase awareness of the team. Sony doesn't have way to promote SS except through straight marketing that will cost them $$$. This is difficult for a company who's Spiderman movies have been sporadic in quality. SM 1 was average, SM 2 was great, SM 3 was garbage, ASM 1 great, and ASM 2 was garbage. There was also that snooze Hulk movie. SS might just bomb and harm the Spiderman brand even further. Would Sony be willing to risk more money after that? I will say no. If SS bombs, Disney is swooping in a buying up Spiderman and taking full control.
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Oh I completely agree. TASM2 had a ridiculous undisclosed budget, as well as another almost $200mill in marketing. So Cap2 was definitely much much more profitable. That's the whole reason Sony are even considering a deal with Marvel, and are panicking about their Spider-Man property, even talking about getting Sam Ramai and Tobey Maguire back.
All I'm saying is Sony will hold on to Spider-Man until the very end, and with his popularity, it could be a long long ride to wait out for Marvel to naturally get back the rights. If Marvel forsees it happening within the next 10-15 years though, then I'm sure they'll wait it out, as from a business point of view it makes sense. As they're clearly in no rush, or desperate need to get Spider-Man back right away. But it's a long long wait for us fans, so I'd rather they make a deal with Sony now tbh.
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Nah, sinister six is in really good hands. Sony did the right thing, for once, and put Drew Goddard in charge. Goddard is really passionate about the characters and super talented.
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was the best Spidey film we've gotten thus far.
I don't really care if the rights go back to Marvel. As a studio they can only make so many films, so adding Spider-Man will mean another franchise will likely get short-changed.
I think we've already had plenty of Spidey solo films. What I want now is to see him with the Hulk or with Iron Man.
And I would prefer an Awesome solo film every 5 years from Marvel than to get a mediocre (sometimes good) solo film every 2 years from Sony with no possibility of a Marvel crossover.
I don't really care when the next Solo Spider-Man movie comes now (whether it's another Spider-Man 2 or another TASM2). I'd just like to see Spider-Man with the Avengers.
We've had 3 decent Spider-Man films between SM1, SM2 and TASM1 (even if that is 1 too many origin stories). Time to spice things up for me to be excited about Live-Action Spider-Man again.
But seriously, it was the most faithful adaptation we've gotten. Garfield WAS Spider-Man. He had the quips, his action sequences were perfect, his chemistry with Gwen, etc.
Tobey, OTOH, was way too mopey for Peter. MJ was nothing like her comic counterpart, the action was cool for the time but ASM action is much better and looks like what I'd expect from Spidey.
The ASM franchise did correct certain things in Ramai's version that were not faithful to the source material.
That's why I loved ASM1 despite it retelling the Origin story just 10 years later.
However sticking to source material or not, I can't appreciate a bad film. And tbh as a film TASM2 isn't a massive improvement on S3.
That's why I just don't care about the next solo film, and want Marvel to take over the franchise. If they share the rights with Sony like 50/50 or even 60/40, that could work too. Do anything, just let Marvel sort out their Original Poster Boy.
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