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Jan 15th, 2015 02:00 AM
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Darth Maul in a very good fight.
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Jan 15th, 2015 02:01 AM
Angelalex242
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Feats:
Sneaking around Vader as a teen. Vader, who has better senses then Maul does, which is the important part here.
Also, she can disappear in the Force, thanks to Ben teaching her how, which he in turn learned from Jacen.
Maul, on the other hand, cannot sneak up on her, as her danger sense is described as better then Luke's, and he commonly relies on her for that when they are paired...as is frequent.
There are better stealthers then Mara...Sidious himself for one, who can stand there next to Yoda and not be recognized for what he is...but very few.
Jan 15th, 2015 02:09 AM
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Proof she was sneaking around Vader without him sensing her?
Maul can also "disappear in the Force" to other Force Users.
And she can't sneak up on Maul either, due to relatively advanced foresight, an advanced danger sense of his own ect.
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Jan 15th, 2015 02:14 AM
Angelalex242
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Jan 15th, 2015 02:28 AM
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Evannova said it? Ah, well, shit. There goes my argument.
Mara wins.
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Jan 15th, 2015 02:30 AM
Angelalex242
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I don't own the Emperor's Hand books, but there's only so many novels that details her before Palpatine and Vader's demise. I think like, one or two of them.
Jan 15th, 2015 02:33 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ILS
Evannova said it? Ah, well, shit. There goes my argument.
Mara wins.
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Jan 15th, 2015 03:29 AM
AncientPower
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Forget Darth Vader, she can even hide from Darth Caedus:
While he could sense the layout, Mara had vanished from the Force again.
Source: Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice
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Jan 15th, 2015 03:46 AM
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I kinda agree. Maul finds where his target is and goes on s slaughter spree. Hr isn't the kind of assassin that stealths in, kills one guy, and then stealths out leaving no trace behind. If Maul kills someone,everyone knows
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Jan 15th, 2015 03:47 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by WildBantha88
I kinda agree. Maul finds where his target is and goes on s slaughter spree. Hr isn't the kind of assassin that stealths in, kills one guy, and then stealths out leaving no trace behind. If Maul kills someone,everyone knows
Why bother with hit and run tactics when you can just kill everyone?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by AncientPower
Forget Darth Vader, she can even hide from Darth Caedus:
While he could sense the layout, Mara had vanished from the Force again.
Source: Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice
Fair enough man. I would only question how often she actually uses this ability in combat, but yeah, she can certainly hide from Maul in the Force using this method.
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Jan 15th, 2015 04:10 AM
Angelalex242
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...this is why I need more friends with firsthand evidence.
Anyways, I kinda imagine the fight would start with Maul attacking Mara. Being a Juyo practioner, mainly, he's going to go after her like a crazy maniac while Mara defends with the 3 rings and Ataru.
Maul's a physical beast and overpowers her, so she has to disengage and start using the environment. She will quickly figure out trying to go toe to toe with Maul is stupid. Maul and Mara will both be collapsing the environment down on each other (they've both collapsed tunnels before) while Mara stays out of sight and of mind's sight.
The force duel probably won't get anywhere, even when she tries to Force Stun him to get an opening (He'll power through it.) So it comes down to stab him in the back.
Jan 15th, 2015 04:30 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Angelalex242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udd3DYiNut0
Don't remember which issue it's in...but hey, EvanNova's still useful.
19:08-19:45. Her actual force listings start at 18:40. 20:38 details force stun.
Not to crap on nova or anything, but he's screwed up with character feats before, he's said that Jaden Korr had tutaminis, when in fact it was his[Jaden's] apprentice who did that. I wouldn't put much weight behind the words of the Vs youtube guys.
also, what do you mean when you say 3 rings user? just curious
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Jan 15th, 2015 04:39 AM
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The three rings of defense.
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Jan 15th, 2015 04:44 AM
Angelalex242
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Yes. It's the NJO's Shii Cho upgrade, more or less. Composed of the Outer Ring, Middle Ring, and Inner ring.
Jan 15th, 2015 04:45 AM
AncientPower
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quote: C'baoth swung around to face her, his face contorted with rage. "No!" he screamed; and again the blue-white lightning crackled from his fingertips. Mara caught the burst on her lightsaber, her mad rush faltering as coronal fire burned all around her. C'baoth fired again and again, backing toward the throne and the solid wall behind it. Doggedly, Mara kept coming.
Source: The Last Command
quote: Mara did not have the half a second it would take to raise her arms again, so she simply threw herself backward, pulling her throat off the talons and bringing her legs up to either side of Alema’s. A bolt of blue lightning crackled past above her face so close she saw it even through closed eyes. Mara was already scissoring her feet, catching the Twi’lek below the knees with one leg and above the knees with the other.
Source: Legacy of the Force: Tempest
quote: Then she said, "I need you to join with me, so I can nudge the bubble higher in the direction we want to go. I'll try to slide rocks off the back of the bubble while I lift other rocks ahead of us, and I'll fill in those gaps before the ceiling collapses any lower. Do you see what I've got in mind?"
...
"I'm working on it." Visualizing this wrong would flatten their bubble of safety. She needed to move about a hundred rocks simultaneously, up, over, and behind them. Then another hundred, and another. It could take hours. "Open to me, Jaina. The way you used to do in training."
...
Creeping forward over gouged stone, Mara breathed shallowly through her borrowed mask. The Force bubble overhead lost precious millimeters with each group of stones she conveyed over the top. She felt Luke's distant touch again, and a pulse of strength with it. Thanks, Skywalker, she shot back at him, feeling a little limp. There was a time for gratitude.
...
"Explains plenty, though." Another dozen rocks clicked down into place behind them, and Mara slithered forward a centimeter.
...
Mara kept her own mask on. Another group of rocks lifted. She caught a glimmer of light through the space beyond them. "Almost," she grunted.
It was hard to keep stones moving slowly, now. The mental image of dying within half a meter of freedom kept her focused. Moving the last stones took over an hour.
Source: The New Jedi Order: Balance Point
quote: Jacen was on the knife-edge between dying and killing. They grappled, Force-pushed, Force-crushed: he threw her back again, trying to Force-jolt her spine and paralyze her for a moment, but somehow she deflected it and bricks flew out of the wall as if someone had punched them through from the other side. She almost Force-snatched the lightsaber from his hand, but even with his injuries he hung on to it. He wouldn't die. He couldn't, not now.
Source: Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice
quote: That hit home to Luke, a reminder, as everything seemed to be a reminder, that his beloved wife was not well. The best doctors in the galaxy were shaking their heads helplessly, able to do nothing but watch as something inside Mara continually altered her molecular structure. No medicine, no therapy, had come close to treating the rare disease, and only her own internal strength, her use of the Force, was somewhat keeping it in check. Those others who had contracted the disease had not been so fortunate.
Source: The New Jedi Order: Vector Prime
quote: What made it even more remarkable was that neither of them was in full, good health. Mara had been battling a disease that sapped her strength and defied Luke's best efforts to help her. He knew things could have been worse: of a hundred people diagnosed with the ailment, only she had survived. Her strength in the Force has sustained her, and in combat she lets the Force race through her.
Source: The New Jedi Order: Dark Tide II: Ruin
quote: Not quite. She did not allow herself to come down on the walltop. It, too, was said to have pressure sensors on its walkway and would reveal her presence if she did so. Instead, she caught herself with the Force, creating a bubble between her and the top of the wall, and drifted just over that surface until she was above the blue clover on the far side.
It was time to be a Jedi instead of a spy. As a spy, she’d probably have fixed a line thrower to the top of the CorSec building, launched a driller projectile, trailing a nearly invisible cable, to affix itself to the top of Thrackan’s dome, and used a powered or hand-cranked winch to carry her the quarter kilometer from rooftop to rooftop . . . and even so, her chances of detection would have been very high. Instead, she carried almost no equipment, and her chances of detection would be determined by her own concentration.
She allowed herself to float down to stand just above the blue clover. The bubble of Force energy that kept her aloft was easier to maintain when she was mere centimeters above the surface-merely having the mental image, the paradigm, of it as a sort of air-filled balloon improved her ability to perceive it, to maintain it. She’d need to employ all the concentration tricks she knew, because what she was about to do was very tricky.
At the base of the wall, she stood a moment, eyes closed, and focused on the other things she’d have to do to cross two hundred meters of sensor-filled open space.
Air. She could not keep air from moving, of course. As she moved, she would displace it. But she added motion to the air she displaced, so that it moved out in a single stream, losing neither speed nor coherence for dozens of meters ahead of her. To a sensor, it would read not as the movement of a person across the lawn, but as a breeze.
Heat. That would be the trickiest part. If she radiated heat, infrared sensors would inevitably pick it up. She surrounded herself with another bubble, this one of containment . . . and immediately felt her temperature begin to rise as the heat she expended stayed within centimeters of her skin. She could even control herself to the point that she did not sweat, and would need to do so here-but that, too, would increase her internal temperature.
She couldn’t sustain the effect of heat entrapment for long; she would end up collapsing. But she should be able to sustain it long enough to cross the open space between wall and bunker . . . and in that time, infrared detectors would not see her.
Source: Legacy of the Force: Betrayal
Mara is very strong in the Force, Luke's seminal fluid couldn't have hurt her connection either.
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Jan 15th, 2015 05:06 AM
Angelalex242
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Carrying Ben in her womb probably helped more. Sex is great, Force Bonds are better, but carrying a child to term while simultaneously fighting off a Vong virus? That'll do it.
Jan 15th, 2015 05:17 AM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Angelalex242
Maul has no known stealth talents. He's a pure fighter.
Really? I wonder how he kept the Sith's presence a secret right up until TPM then?
Jan 15th, 2015 12:44 PM
AncientPower
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In Shadow Hunter he wasn't very good at hiding his presence from Darsha Assant.
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Jan 15th, 2015 12:51 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AncientPower
In Shadow Hunter he wasn't very good at hiding his presence from Darsha Assant.
Shaak Ti isn't very good at killing MagnaGuards either though tbf
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