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Then in that case Hulk thunderclaps Hal to a distant planet.. The thing is this alleged box won't even hold Hulk.. Afterall Hal wasn't even shown to make some huge ass box that contained someone as strong and powerful as Hulk is



Its okay , I haven't watched Green Lantern in a few years but I remember a lot from it



A helicopter prolly weighs far far less than Hulk does so I kind of doubt Hal has the strength to lift Hulk as I do not recall Hal having any type of strength feats


False equivalency but I kinda think you knew that. Hulk's thunder clap was never shown to be uber powerful, however Hal had created things more complex than a box so saying he can't is rather dumb. The man made a machine gun. A box would be simple

Helicopter probably weighs more seeing as Hulk was able to ride in a jet with no trouble at all. I doubt the jet would be fine with a helicopter sitting on top of it.

Hal also flys faster than light seeing as how he made it to the sun in about a minute. Meaning Hulk would be in the box, that Hal can surely create, for less than a second before he was in space. Not really enough time for Hulk to break out


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Please find the scene on youtube that shows Hal putting something in a box and throwing into outer space...


Wait you for real?


If Hulk can be in a Jet or moved by a Jet that couldn't Hal just strap all those Jet Constructs to push him into the Sun like he did Parallax?

Or just..space in general?


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Wait you for real?


If Hulk can be in a Jet or moved by a Jet that couldn't Hal just strap all those Jet Constructs to push him into the Sun like he did Parallax?

Or just..space in general?


Ha good point. Hal creates a jet around Hulk since he "can't make a box" or some such nonsense thumb up


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I don't see how GL beats Thor, so Avengers.

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Yup Thor is more of an issue than Hulk


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Put them in a box and throw them into space.
I fail to see what that is suppose to do to Thor. How long before Thor hammer takes out GL?

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I fail to see what that is suppose to do to Thor. How long before Thor hammer takes out GL?


Can Thor survive in space? I don't recall him ever being in space so that may what GL needs to do


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Yeah just put thor in a box small enough to not be able to swing his hammer. Should do the trick.

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Can Thor survive in space? I don't recall him ever being in space so that may what GL needs to do
I thought Thor could. I have to check.
Either way the box as I am hearing is only as strong as GL will makes it. So why does do you think his will be strong enough to contain someone as strong as Thor or the Hulk for that matter.

His first shot at doing so shouldn't which would give Thor ample time to attack.

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I dont know man, if he's not scared of Hulk or Thor he has no real issue.

Dude was strong enough (willpower wise) to basically beat a Galactus monster sized storm cloud of Fear and Death that terrorized the galaxy.


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Can Thor survive in space? I don't recall him ever being in space so that may what GL needs to do



Loki survived getting dropped in space. So I'm thinking Thor can too?


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I dont know man, if he's not scared of Hulk or Thor he has no real issue.

Dude was strong enough (willpower wise) to basically beat a Galactus monster sized storm cloud of Fear and Death that terrorized the galaxy.
Yeah but he had to build up that willpower. He didn't have it initially. The Hulk will keep getting stronger so he would have to keep raising his willpower.

GL definitely cannot face the hulk in close confrontation. As for Thor even if he is able to get him out of space I believe Loki survive in part 1 out in space so I see no reason that Thor wouldn't. Also can't Thor just open a portal with his hammer no matter where he is to go anywhere he wants?

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Yeah but he had to build up that willpower. He didn't have it initially. The Hulk will keep getting stronger so he would have to keep raising his willpower.

GL definitely cannot face the hulk in close confrontation. As for Thor even if he is able to get him out of space I believe Loki survive in part out in space so I see no reason that Thor wouldn't. Also can't Thor just open a portal with his hammer no matter where he is to go anywhere he wants?


Willpower isn't like, a power-level. He overcame his own fear and it lead him to become the best Green Lantern. It's not like getting out of shape or something. Once you have willpower you have willpower.

Hulk can be slowed down by hails of gunfire, which we've actually SEEN GL create constructs of.

Why not create a green Hulkbuster armor and then bada boom bada bing punchy punchy smashy smashy.

Did Loki survive in space? I thought that was like a portal thingy. Either way, fine - throw Thor into the sun for all I care. Like he did with the being that was larger than Thor


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Yeah but he had to build up that willpower. He didn't have it initially. The Hulk will keep getting stronger so he would have to keep raising his willpower.


Not how it works, Hals willpower and faith in himself was set at the end up the film, so he'd be fully confident in himself from the start of this fight. His willpower is not a meter that empties and needs to slowly be refilled.

edit: Quincy beat me to it. See above.


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I know how willpower works and one thing that is incorrect with both of your comments is that willpower can grow stronger or become weaker to a point of being non-existent. Key word once he overcame his fear he was able to use his willpower at its fullest.

I'm not going to go into the technicalities here but a person can also have fear and still have great willpower or even greater than one without fear.

The point is, I know Thor is quite weak in the movies in comparison to his comic version but not as weak as you guys are making him out to be.

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I thought Thor could. I have to check.
Either way the box as I am hearing is only as strong as GL will makes it. So why does do you think his will be strong enough to contain someone as strong as Thor or the Hulk for that matter.

His first shot at doing so shouldn't which would give Thor ample time to attack.


The fact that GL can fly faster than light is a huge advantage here. H contains them and the flight to space would be less than a second. No chance for an escape.

Now if Thor can indeed survive in space, then it's now a 1 on 1 fight.


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The fact that GL can fly faster than light is a huge advantage here. H contains them and the flight to space would be less than a second. No chance for an escape.

Now if Thor can indeed survive in space, then it's now a 1 on 1 fight.
Lets say Thor can't. Unless I understand his powers incorrectly, what is preventing him from opening a portal and escaping.

Also can GL travel faster than light while holding Thor or the Hulk? Has he shown such an ability? What feat has GL perform that shows his box would hold the first hit from the hulk or Thor?

There is no one that GL fought that I know of whose attack power is on the level of Thor or the Hulk.

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Lets say Thor can't. Unless I understand his powers incorrectly, what is preventing him from opening a portal and escaping.

Also can GL travel faster than light while holding Thor or the Hulk? Has he shown such an ability? What feat has GL perform that shows his box would hold the first hit from the hulk or Thor?

There is no one that GL fought that I know of whose attack power is on the level of Thor or the Hulk.


His hammer has never opened a portal in the MCU. He was unable to travel to other worlds without the Rainbow Bridge, Odin using some kind of magic during Avengers, Loki's secret passages, or traveling thru holes created by the Aether. Never once did he just use his hammer to teleport so that's not an option here.

I don't see why he can't. Not 100% if he did so in the film or not tho. I really want to avoid watching it again if I can. But he can strap jets onto them like he did to Parallax. He doesn't need to necessarily trap them inside something to do away with them.

You're right but they've never face anything like GL before either


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Hal didn't attach jets to Parallax, he attached the jets to himself and punched Parallax after he(Hal) lured Parallax close enough to the Sun to get it trapped in the gravity well.


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