That mustache is powerful enough to kill everyone on the planet.
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Ok boiz,my "example" was supposed to persuade you to give me an opinion where you would place a char and start the discussion. So far so good. Where would you place Roshi, Yamcha and ChiChi?
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You mean when he held "the heavens" for Atlas? That's lifting the universe?
Also, a lot of herald-level characters have no super-strength whatsoever. But that doesn't stop them from being able to kill Hercules five times over before he even hits the ground in free fall.
Indeed that was the representation of the burden Atlas had to lift, the Universe, even if you would argue with Mythology and say it is "only" the world. I still would like to see a DB char lift the Earth. SSJ4 Goku has problem supporting a part of a City.
Yes that is true and a meta like Spiderman beat a Herald like Firelord. Collateral Damage is not enough to be classified in a tier imo.
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I'm not going to argue anything, because it's an unquantifiable feat—you don't have to lift the sky for it to stay in place, trust me.
And if we look at quantifiable feats by Hercules, where he struggles, we realize that he's nowhere near as strong as you claim.
If Goku and Hercules competed in bench pressing I'd put my money on Hercules. However, in a fight Goku would knock out or kill Hercules in a single blast before he could react.
What does collateral damage have to do with Spider-man supposedly beating Firelord?
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Lol...Roshi was equal to a guy who threw a Pilar with ease across the freaking planet. He's the weakest of DBZ characters. I'll put every dollar I have on Roshi in a fight against Hercules. Look at Roshi fight against Goku.
Also, lol, so strength is the reason you put characters in the meta atgainstbiutnd Herald tier?
Why should I trust you? And it was representative for Earth and or the Universe and as such heavy enough. Unquantifiable but still impressive. Herc is a Class 100. Which is more than any DB char I know of.
If Goku and Herc faught just phsically in a slug fest punch for punch, Herc would kill him, since he is stronger. Blasting power is in Gokus favor, that was never argued.
You wrote : "Also, a lot of herald-level characters have no super-strength whatsoever. But that doesn't stop them from being able to kill Hercules five times over before he even hits the ground in free fall."
I gave you the Spiderman vs Firelord answer.
You wrote: "
What does collateral damage have to do with Spider-man supposedly beating Firelord?"
We were talking about people beating others out of their class now. I gave you an example that Tiers are not always represenataive who wins. As for Collateral Damge, it is like strength not enough to give someone a place in a tier he might not deserve.
Yet those chars struggle to lift a City. If Gokus destroys the earth he kills himself. The durability against physical attacks of DB chars is by far lower than against energy attacks, thus I can imagine a superior physical foe beating them rather quick. Anyway. Place them in tiers, that will be more helpful, not only you but all of you, maybe we can find an consens.
You would also put Goku in the Abstract or Skyfather tier...
Dr. Slump > Dragonball if you ask me and yeah, physically she Is above any DB char, splitting the earth in half etc. So feel free.
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In the Dragon Ball: Bouken Special (1987), Toriyama was asked how a battle between Goku and Arale would go. His response: "If Goku and Arale fought, Arale would probably be stronger than Goku." Since this statement was made during the Piccolo Daimao-era, it puts Goku's PL at 260.
That said, the word "probably" implies that the difference between Goku and Arale was marginal. So if I had to guess, I'd say Arale's PL would have been ~300. For a point of reference: Freeza's PL at base=530,000(a difference of over 1,750x.)
Food for thought.
...But yeah, her strength feats are retardedly haxx.
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