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Official KOTOR II Update
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ChaosTheory123
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Here

Let me help you

Ways to kill Sion

He's never been shown to regenerate from a severed head or crushed skull/brain. We can't assume he can without proper feats or narrative telling us he can.

Ergo, he can't pull a Majin Buu or Cell and regenerate from shit he's never shown feats for.

Second way to kill him?

Overwhelm his TK enhanced durability, reduce his flesh to small enough particles of matter to the point he can't regenerate.

After all, the fact he can die in the first place suggests his durability has a tangible limit regeneration not withstanding

This help you dude? :hmm

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FreshestSlice
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Yeah, I'm not going to take total bullshitting over what's actually in game. In game, it says Sion will comeback every time he's killed, or at least has every time he's died, and that he's died several times. So does the Campaign Guide for the KotOR franchise. All of that>you. It doesn't set some new limit anymore than saying, "Well, the blaster worked, and this bomb worked, so the bomb is the new limit to permanently killing Sion." They both can kill him, and he is perfectly dead regardless. Not suspended, but actually dead. There's also the fact that what you'e listing isn't even true. Sion's body is just about dust, and he holds it together solely by the power of the Force. He's a rotting corpse by all accounts.

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ChaosTheory123
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That's... not a rebuttal

All you're rattling off is hyperbole from the narrative

I know he can come back to life, that's great

In the context of Star Wars, he might as well be immortal (unproven, but his upper shown limits are fairly impressive)

Now chuck a planet/supernova level attack at his ass

Does his flesh get incinerated or not?

This isn't all that difficult a thought experiment dude, I'm pretty sure you're smarter than this by now

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AncientPower
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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's all gameplay, and considering Atton was alive in the original version of this game, I'm guessing he doesn't canonically lose.


The only thing that is gameplay there is Atton's victory or loss, IIRC Atton can survive the loss and appears after you kill Traya injured.


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FreshestSlice
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I was talking about leveling. Besides, if Atton loses to Sion, he dies, which makes me think him defeating him has to be canon. Of course, that hinges on the original ending still being canon now.
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Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
That's... not a rebuttal

All you're rattling off is hyperbole from the narrative

I know he can come back to life, that's great

In the context of Star Wars, he might as well be immortal (unproven, but his upper shown limits are fairly impressive)

Now chuck a planet/supernova level attack at his ass

Does his flesh get incinerated or not?

This isn't all that difficult a thought experiment dude, I'm pretty sure you're smarter than this by now

Comeback to me when you have something to actually refute what's in game. Otherwise, I'm going to assume it, and not you, is correct. As his power is pretty bullshit, I wouldn't be surprised if it worked on an atomic level. It's not Dark Transfer, so it might.

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ChaosTheory123
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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Comeback to me when you have something to actually refute what's in game. Otherwise, I'm going to assume it, and not you, is correct. As his power is pretty bullshit, I wouldn't be surprised if it worked on an atomic level. It's not Dark Transfer, so it might.


I wouldn't be surprised either

However, you'll be surprised to know that only affords him megatons of durability or so.

Humans are kind of tiny

Even a full mass/energy conversion grants him a gigaton or 2, and that's about as thoroughly destroyed as matter can get

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AncientPower
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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I was talking about leveling. Besides, if Atton loses to Sion, he dies, which makes me think him defeating him has to be canon. Of course, that hinges on the original ending still being canon now.


It happens in the story actually, Brianna starts out as the least skilled and disciplined of the six, when she returns to the Telos Academy after her Jedi training she stomps all five handmaidens in seconds and then stalemates Atris before Atris has had enough and spams her with FL.

I thought you could save him before leaving.


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FreshestSlice
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Of course that happens in story, but the whole, "how you leveled him," thing is where I'm getting at. Don't see why that really matters.

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AncientPower
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If you complete his training in dialogue with him he can win but if you don't he loses, IIRC.


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ares834
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Originally posted by AncientPower
Said cut content was included in this official patch for KOTOR II, this makes it Legends 'canon'.


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Generally being part of an official update is acknowledging it as part of the official game kiddo


Except, according to the link, it's not.

Rather this update will make the game comparable with the Steam workshop and the restoration mod will be available on said workshop.

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AncientPower
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The entire thing is an optional patch, including the restored content which Aspyr worked on to make it part of the optional update.


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ares834
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Read your own link. The patch allows acces to the steam worshop which includes the restoration mod (as well as others) however, the restoration mod is not part of the patch.

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FreshestSlice
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Read your own link. The patch allows acces to the steam worshop which includes the restoration mod (as well as others) however, the restoration mod is not part of the patch.

"The Steam update notes indicated that the mod's group "teamed up" with the port's new developers at Aspyr, meaning that this is the most frank, official support we've ever seen for the game's restored content being modded back into the game."

It should be also noted that the ones actually adding the content back into the game, as in with the patch is Valve. It's basically semantics at this point, but this really doesn't change anything as most people at east considered the restored content okay in debates.

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NewGuy01
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I'll give it a shot. When's the release?


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It's already out.

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AncientPower
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So it got rated for Linux, iOS and Mobile back in May, KOTOR 2 on Google Play Store confirmed. Looks like i am buying a new micro SD because i already have KOTOR installed.


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Beniboybling
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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I was talking about leveling. Besides, if Atton loses to Sion, he dies, which makes me think him defeating him has to be canon. Of course, that hinges on the original ending still being canon now.

Comeback to me when you have something to actually refute what's in game. Otherwise, I'm going to assume it, and not you, is correct. As his power is pretty bullshit, I wouldn't be surprised if it worked on an atomic level. It's not Dark Transfer, so it might.
Where does it say in any KOTOR material that Sion can endure any injury?

What Chaos is saying seems to make sense.


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FreshestSlice
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Where did I say he could endure any injury? I said that once he dies he comes back, which is said in game. Chaos seems to be trying to find an injury that would lead to a permanent death, and short of atomizing him and scattering the ashes, we haven't actually agreed on a way to make him stay dead, hence our little discussion. He wants Nihilus to be some sort of benchmark, and I said that since it didn't even kill Kreia, I doubt that it actually is.

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NewGuy01
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[PR] Kreia taunts each master - During the Masters infamous speech about how they must cut the Exile off from the force, Kreia comes in as usual and throws them back. However, after she drains them, it's not over. Kreia was to ask each master how they could not have felt the echo and how close they were to giving up the Force but they failed. Kreia puts each of them in a crush, thus killing them. - Restored; Taunting. Killing would be compeletely against everything Kreia stood for. So... no killing!!!

So apparently the drain doesn't kill in this version, and she either kills them with TK or not at all. (I can't tell, really, it's sorta contradictory.)


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Nephthys
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Killing goes against what Kreia stands for? Lolwut? She was in charge of an academy of sith assassins and monsters. Which she later orchestrates the obliteration of with the help of the Exile, after killing a bunch of people as a party member all game. She kills 7 assassins without even looking at them on Malachor. She really isn't above killing.


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