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Originally posted by AncientPower
You mean Shadow of Dathomir where Maul -unlike Dooku- is completely out of his depth in a Force fight.

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Maul claims he still serves Sidious, Sidious claims Maul is deceiving him because he is now a rival, then precedes to hold him against the wall with telekinesis while laughing. The context makes it perfectly clear. Maul is a rival because he doesn't serve Sidious any longer, not because they are close in power, because they are not.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Quan doesn't know what the definition of rival is.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
At the beginning of the fight before all this starts, before he shows his disappointment that maul is attempting to decide him, he looks at savage. He can sense tha savage is his apprentice. He also goes on to(after killing savage mind you) tell maul about the "reality of the Sith" and tells him their can only be two. Dave Filoni even goes on to reference this. Add this to how Maul is completely dominated by Sidious even with the aid of his brother, and he still couldn't defeat or even come close to defeating Sidious.

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Originally posted by SunRazer
Sidious destroyed Maul in combat anyway, so Quan's position is completely indefensible. Checkmate.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Thatbdoesnt change the fact they are rivals as Sheev claimed. Sheev is a rival to Windu despite being beaten by Windu and begging for his life. Rivals can lose to each other, sport.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Sheev claimed maul to be a rival as a Sith faction. Sheev allowed Windu to win as seen in the films. Also it took a lot for Windu to do that. He needed an amp to just be equal. An amp he has never once had before. Then he needed shatterpoint which again amped to a degree that was and will never be seen before. Rivals don't lose as fast as maul did and don't need help to fight the opponent. Maul had help and when he fought him one on one he lasted seconds. Not minutes.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
When did he say a Sith faction ? He doesn't use those words. No, you speculate. it's a fact Windu had him at his mercy. Nah. Rivals can lose any of a number of ways. He's a rival. Don't disrespect Sheev.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He doesn't have to say it for it to be fact. Notice he comes in as maul gains political power, not power as a force weilder, or lightsaber duelist. He referenced the rule of two, and so does Dave Filoni. I've proven it. Windu couldn't have killed Sidious. If Yoda couldn't do it, then Mace can't. Sidious was playing possum as stated by Lucas. Rivals don't lose as quickly as Maul did to Sidious. Rivals don't need help to be able to contend with. We see maul is no where near Sidious level. Rivals are close in power and skill of that area. Maul isn't in terms of saber skills or force power close to Sidious.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
That is his opinion and he isn't some dummy. That's abc logic. Windu didn't because of Anakin. Yoda failed because he's a little three fort pile of failure shit.

Yes, rivals can lose quickly. You don't know what the word means. Obviously.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
No he is the supervising director of TCW and he went into an interview with i09 and sat down and told them about how the fight went. There he makes it pretty clear that maul isn't on Sidious level. The episode makes it clear and so on and so forth. Yoda failed due to positioning. Yoda is the only true rival of ROTS Sidious. Yoda accomplished what Maul and Windu couldn't. He disarmed Sidious without the need of any boost. Maul couldn't come close. He even had help and couldn't do anything to Sidious. He was a rival Sith faction, not a rival in skill or power.

No they don't. If we're rivals our battles will last more than 26 seconds dumbass. You don't know anything.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Sidious did defeat him but Maul is still a rival no matter how badly it disgusts you.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
They are rivals but Sidious is clearly better. I have always said as much. Yoda failed. He had the lower ground so he lost. Windu won. Facts.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
At the beginning of the fight before all this starts, before he shows his disappointment that maul is attempting to decide him, he looks at savage. He can sense tha savage is his apprentice. He also goes on to(after killing savage mind you) tell maul about the "reality of the Sith" and tells him their can only be two. Dave Filoni even goes on to reference this. Add this to how Maul is completely dominated by Sidious even with the aid of his brother, and he still couldn't defeat or even come close to defeating Sidious.