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ares834
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Which is kinda irrelevant here since this is the film version where the Balrog is literally on fire. If we bring in the books though, I doubt any of the Orcs have the metaphysical “oomph” or mystical weapons capable of harming the Balrog.

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"Moria. You fear to go into those mines. The Dwarves delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-d�m. Shadow and Flame." -Sarumon (Fellowship)

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Great scene.

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Why did Legolas shoot that guy again... didn't he do everybody a favor and do what others wanted to do to him. Why shoot a killing blow there?

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Great scene.

Very good scene indeed

Nov 18th, 2015 10:06 PM

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Why did Legolas shoot that guy again... didn't he do everybody a favor and do what others wanted to do to him. Why shoot a killing blow there?

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"Moria. You fear to go into those mines. The Dwarves delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-d�m. Shadow and Flame." -Sarumon (Fellowship)

Gandalf also outright state to Aragorn "Swords have no more use here"

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Gandalf also outright state to Aragorn "Swords have no more use here"

So swords is all Sauron's army consists of ?

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The majority of Sauron's army consisted of orcs (or similar, goblin, goblin-men) armed with some manner of handheld weapon, sword, axe, spear etc.

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Most of Sauron's army are below human level schmucks with medieval weapons

Not an ideal match for an upper tier Maia who cleaned house with a Dwarven Kingdom

First Age characters are way above Third Age characters brah

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The majority of Sauron's army consisted of orcs (or similar, goblin, goblin-men) armed with some manner of handheld weapon, sword, axe, spear etc.

So let's ignore the trolls and the sheer number of them along with their massive weight and size.

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Aragorn melee'd a troll

And he ain't shit to any upper tier character in the verse

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Aragorn melee'd a troll

And he ain't shit to any upper tier character in the verse

And the fellowship also had to work together to kill one but let's try one better. Gandalf solo'd a Balrog but he hid up a tree when Azog and his crew rolled up despite having allies at his side.

Abc logic is fun.

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Trolls get a flaming whip to the snout.

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Trolls get a flaming whip to the snout.

The sheer numerical advantage of the trolls and the orcs would smother the Balrog and his allies. This isn't close.

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So let's ignore the trolls and the sheer number of them along with their massive weight and size.

When did I ignore the trolls? I said the majority of Sauron's army were orcs armed with melee weapons, which is true.

As far as the trolls, what exactly are they going to do to the Balrog before it slaughters them with flame blade, whip and fire? It can set stone on fire. Those same trolls were getting killed by dwarves and elves.

As noted, this is the beast that basically solo'd an entire dwarven kingdom.

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When did I ignore the trolls? I said the majority of Sauron's army were orcs armed with melee weapons, which is true.

As far as the trolls, what exactly are they going to do to the Balrog before it slaughters them with flame blade, whip and fire? Those same trolls were getting killed by dwarves and elves.

As noted, this is the beast that basically solo'd an entire dwarven kingdom.

The same guy who defeated the Balrog was fleeing from orcs. Lol. It works both ways. The trolls would hammer the Balrog down who isn't fast or quick at all. Do you really think so little of Sauron's army ?

Smaug did as well but guess what happened to Smaug. He died. These guys aren't invulnerable.

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Balrog was basically Smaug level considering they both made Dwarven kingdoms fall to their might.

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Balrog was basically Smaug level considering they both made Dwarven kingdoms fall to their might.

And neither are invulnerable. Balrog was laughably more pathetic compared to Smaug. We actually see Smaug in action but all we see is Gandalf beating Balrog down.

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The same guy who defeated the Balrog was fleeing from orcs. Lol. It works both ways. The trolls would hammer the Balrog down who isn't fast or quick at all. Do you really think so little of Sauron's army ?

Smaug did as well but guess what happened to Smaug. He died. These guys aren't invulnerable.

They'd have to get close enough to hammer, which isn't likely considering the Balrog is covered in flames and can ignite the floor in flames. Balrog probably wouldn't need to kill most of Sauron's army anyway, considering it made hundreds of goblins flee just by roaring.

Smaug died in a very specific manner via exploiting a weak-spot, the missing scale that was basically over his heart. No one is saying the Balrog is invulnerable, just that Sauron's army lacks the ability with what it has.

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