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Jessica/Luke Cage vs Mirakuru Soldier
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KingD19
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Based on canon and the stories the show is based off, as well as what is shown in direct comparison, I'm not sure how people can say she's stronger. He's always been stronger than her since their comics were established. Cage in his initial days back in the 70's is stronger than Jessica when she was first intrdoduced nearly 30 years later.

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Based on canon and the stories the show is based off, as well as what is shown in direct comparison, I'm not sure how people can say she's stronger. He's always been stronger than her since their comics were established. Cage in his initial days back in the 70's is stronger than Jessica when she was first intrdoduced nearly 30 years later.


Well, as mentioned previously, I think a big problem comes from the fact that their power levels fluctuate all over the place, depending on the episode and situation. Jessica in particular goes from lifting and holding the back of a car with seemingly minimal effort, to having to tussle extensively with people she should be able to casually oneshot.


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Yeah that didn't sit well with me, which is why I'm hoping Cage will have some comic worthy strength feats when his show comes out. Because a chick who can get hit by a speeding truck and only walk away with a broken rib and bruising, and can jump off buildings and land with no problem shouldn't be taken down by a 120lb ginger with a 2x4.

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Yeah that didn't sit well with me, which is why I'm hoping Cage will have some comic worthy strength feats when his show comes out. Because a chick who can get hit by a speeding truck and only walk away with a broken rib and bruising, and can jump off buildings and land with no problem shouldn't be taken down by a 120lb ginger with a 2x4.


Yeah, that was a major WTF moment for me. She was hit hard enough to leave a giant dent in that truck. That kind of impact would most likely kill a regular person, yet she got up within a few minutes and walked off. Even with the broken rib and bruises, that feat showed an immense level of actual durability, at least in terms of blunt force trauma, so having ginger girl knock her out with a piece of wood made me facepalm.


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Mmmhm. I get that there has to be PIS and CIS so the heroine and hero(Jessica and Luke) don't shitstomp literally everybody sent to fight them, as that's how it should have gone. But considering the highs we've seen from her both durability and strength wise, the lows are just unbelievable.

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Mmmhm. I get that there has to be PIS and CIS so the heroine and hero(Jessica and Luke) don't shitstomp literally everybody sent to fight them, as that's how it should have gone. But considering the highs we've seen from her both durability and strength wise, the lows are just unbelievable.


Yeah, the power fluctuation is one of the few real gripes I actually have with a show I enjoyed quite a lot overall. But at least they balanced it out by having one of the most terrifying MCU villains to date. Even if you don't like Killgrave as a character (and I personally thought he was great), just his powerset alone turns him into one of the most dangerous opponents you could ever have to go up against. Imagine that guy actually getting his mental hooks into one of the Avengers, for example?


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Oh if you've ever read him in the comics he's even more terrifying. Because his ambitions in the comic go beyond simply pining for a girl. He's done some sick stuff. And his control over people is nearly absolute. Only guys like Doom have resisted it.

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I've never really kept up with him much in the comics. I do know that Dr Doom can resist him through pure force of will, but he is motherf****** Doom, so that is hardly anything to scoff at.

I am curious how MCU Kilgrave would do against MCU Daredevil. I know DD actually has some degree of resistance in the comics as well, because of his ability to only focus on certain sensations, or some similar explanation. It would have been extremely funny if Claire had actually called Matt and he pitched up, and Kilgrave tried to control him only for Matt to KO his ass with his cane. Admittedly, it would have undone a whole season's worth of build up, but I still would have laughed.

Edit: Another bit of dumb plot where Jessica's powers fluctuate. Heals perfectly from a gunshot wound within days, to the point where there isn't even a mark. Cuts herself with a sharp blade behind her ear and the scar stays there for who knows how long.


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Hmm...I figured that Jessica/Luke would fair better in hand to hand matches considering both of their attributes into account and matching, if not slightly exceeding, the strength of the Mirakuru soldiers.

With that said Luke isn't exactly a fighter and Jessica is a bit of a glass canon even though she has great recovery speed. Figured that team matches would compensate for their flaws and net them some wins in at least round 1,2 and have a good match for 3.

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