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Raptor22
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So a movie shot thirty some years later has something to do with ESB. laughing out loud


No, this was entirely new. The blast was frozen mid air unlike Han's shots that were deflected. Kylo has superior reaction time than Vader shoe as lying in wait unlike Kylo.

Kylo has already superior reaction feats and he was untrained. I told you all Kylo would surpass Vader. Wait until episode 8, Vader boy.
where did u get the notion that he was untrained? He was lukes apprentice and has been trained by snoke. His training might not be finished but hes not untrained. An example of someone untrained would be the girl who whooped him.

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Ben loses to his grandfather big grin

I just had to say it


He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.

Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.

Not even a speck on Vader's boot.

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He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.

Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.

Not even a speck on Vader's boot.



I do believe that he will improve in the next two films though


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I do believe that he will improve in the next two films though


Yeah but he should have been a good villain for this movie as well. Heck forget good, he should have been an Epic villain in true SW tradition.

That's one aspect where Abrams failed on this movie IMO.

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Anakin easily.


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where did u get the notion that he was untrained? He was lukes apprentice and has been trained by snoke. His training might not be finished but hes not untrained. An example of someone untrained would be the girl who whooped him.
His training wasn't completed. He was also injured but Abrams really played into the mystical aspects of the force for this one.


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He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.

Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.

Not even a speck on Vader's boot.
He already surpasses Vader in darkness. Wait till you see a fully trained Kylo in episode eight.


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Yeah but he should have been a good villain for this movie as well. Heck forget good, he should have been an Epic villain in true SW tradition.

That's one aspect where Abrams failed on this movie IMO.



I see Kylo as a sympathetic villain


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Annie wins


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I see Kylo as a sympathetic villain
What ??


laughing out loud


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Yeah but he should have been a good villain for this movie as well. Heck forget good, he should have been an Epic villain in true SW tradition.

That's one aspect where Abrams failed on this movie IMO.


Agreed. Instead of wasting time developing a multi faceted character they should have just made him stare intimidatingly and do flips.

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Agreed. Instead of wasting time developing a multi faceted character they should have just made him stare intimidatingly and do flips.

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Darth Thor hates Kylo. Shame.


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He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.

Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.

Not even a speck on Vader's boot.


Could not be further from the truth. He is beyond Vadar in evil.


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Could not be further from the truth. He is beyond Vadar in evil.
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Vader failed when the time called for it. Kylo resisted the coldness of the light proving his superiority in the dark side in one film. Amazing.


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Vadar tried to save his son. Kylo did the exact opposite.


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Vadar tried to save his son. Kylo did the exact opposite.
Kylo made me so proud in that scene. I also never thought the character he killed was cool. Ever.


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It was hard for me to see him die. I always like him.


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It was hard for me to see him die. I always like him.
Hopefully his [SPOILER - highlight to read]: mother is the next to go.


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Anakin easily.


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So this is basically pre-suit Darth Vader vs Kylo Ren? Yeah, a solid win for Anakin as well. He took down Count Dooku, no way is Ren taking him down.

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