Raptor22
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: Mass
quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
So a movie shot thirty some years later has something to do with ESB.
No, this was entirely new. The blast was frozen mid air unlike Han's shots that were deflected. Kylo has superior reaction time than Vader shoe as lying in wait unlike Kylo.
Kylo has already superior reaction feats and he was untrained. I told you all Kylo would surpass Vader. Wait until episode 8, Vader boy. where did u get the notion that he was untrained? He was lukes apprentice and has been trained by snoke. His training might not be finished but hes not untrained. An example of someone untrained would be the girl who whooped him.
Dec 19th, 2015 10:21 PM
Darth Thor
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: Asgard
quote: (post ) Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Ben loses to his grandfather
I just had to say it
He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.
Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.
Not even a speck on Vader's boot.
Dec 19th, 2015 10:23 PM
BruceSkywalker
The BatLord of the Jedi
Gender: Male Location: The Batcave
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.
Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.
Not even a speck on Vader's boot.
I do believe that he will improve in the next two films though
__________________
THE TRIAL NEVER ENDS...thanks steve
Dec 19th, 2015 10:43 PM
Darth Thor
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: Asgard
quote: (post ) Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I do believe that he will improve in the next two films though
Yeah but he should have been a good villain for this movie as well. Heck forget good, he should have been an Epic villain in true SW tradition.
That's one aspect where Abrams failed on this movie IMO.
Dec 20th, 2015 12:29 AM
Time-Immemorial
Restricted
Gender: Male Location: Beating Up Tony
Account Restricted
Anakin easily.
__________________
In order for any life to matter, we all have to matter
Dec 20th, 2015 02:45 AM
quanchi112
Disney
Gender: Male Location: Best company on the planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Raptor22
where did u get the notion that he was untrained? He was lukes apprentice and has been trained by snoke. His training might not be finished but hes not untrained. An example of someone untrained would be the girl who whooped him.
His training wasn't completed. He was also injured but Abrams really played into the mystical aspects of the force for this one.
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 04:50 AM
quanchi112
Disney
Gender: Male Location: Best company on the planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.
Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.
Not even a speck on Vader's boot.
He already surpasses Vader in darkness. Wait till you see a fully trained Kylo in episode eight.
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 04:51 AM
BruceSkywalker
The BatLord of the Jedi
Gender: Male Location: The Batcave
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but he should have been a good villain for this movie as well. Heck forget good, he should have been an Epic villain in true SW tradition.
That's one aspect where Abrams failed on this movie IMO.
I see Kylo as a sympathetic villain
__________________
THE TRIAL NEVER ENDS...thanks steve
Dec 20th, 2015 04:59 AM
Time-Immemorial
Restricted
Gender: Male Location: Beating Up Tony
Account Restricted
Annie wins
__________________
In order for any life to matter, we all have to matter
Dec 20th, 2015 05:08 AM
quanchi112
Disney
Gender: Male Location: Best company on the planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I see Kylo as a sympathetic villain
What ??
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 05:09 AM
ares834
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but he should have been a good villain for this movie as well. Heck forget good, he should have been an Epic villain in true SW tradition.
That's one aspect where Abrams failed on this movie IMO.
Agreed. Instead of wasting time developing a multi faceted character they should have just made him stare intimidatingly and do flips.
Dec 20th, 2015 05:15 AM
quanchi112
Disney
Gender: Male Location: Best company on the planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by ares834
Agreed. Instead of wasting time developing a multi faceted character they should have just made him stare intimidatingly and do flips.
Darth Thor hates Kylo. Shame.
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 05:17 AM
Time-Immemorial
Restricted
Gender: Male Location: Beating Up Tony
Account Restricted
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
He basically was his grandfather (pre-suit). Kylo Ren was basically AOTC Whiny Anakin gone to the dark side.
Lamest Dark Side Villain in SW history.
Not even a speck on Vader's boot.
Could not be further from the truth. He is beyond Vadar in evil.
__________________
In order for any life to matter, we all have to matter
Dec 20th, 2015 05:18 AM
quanchi112
Disney
Gender: Male Location: Best company on the planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Could not be further from the truth. He is beyond Vadar in evil.
Vader failed when the time called for it. Kylo resisted the coldness of the light proving his superiority in the dark side in one film. Amazing.
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 05:20 AM
Time-Immemorial
Restricted
Gender: Male Location: Beating Up Tony
Account Restricted
Vadar tried to save his son. Kylo did the exact opposite.
__________________
In order for any life to matter, we all have to matter
Dec 20th, 2015 05:23 AM
quanchi112
Disney
Gender: Male Location: Best company on the planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Vadar tried to save his son. Kylo did the exact opposite.
Kylo made me so proud in that scene. I also never thought the character he killed was cool. Ever.
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 05:24 AM
Time-Immemorial
Restricted
Gender: Male Location: Beating Up Tony
Account Restricted
It was hard for me to see him die. I always like him.
__________________
In order for any life to matter, we all have to matter
Dec 20th, 2015 05:27 AM
quanchi112
Disney
Gender: Male Location: Best company on the planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It was hard for me to see him die. I always like him.
Hopefully his [SPOILER - highlight to read]: mother is the next to go.
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 05:30 AM
|King Joker|
Your Excellency
Gender: Male Location: Transcendent
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Anakin easily.
__________________
Dec 20th, 2015 05:42 AM
DTM
Senior Member
Gender: Location: New Zealand
So this is basically pre-suit Darth Vader vs Kylo Ren? Yeah, a solid win for Anakin as well. He took down Count Dooku, no way is Ren taking him down.
Dec 21st, 2015 07:44 AM
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
Text-only version