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Kit Fisto & Plo Koon vs. General Grievous & Asajj Ventress
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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Plo always fights with one hand though...
He's been in like 1, 2 lightsaber duels, and only in comic book panels. Not much to go off.

As a Djem So wielder though it only makes sense he'd make use of a two-handed grip.


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She jumped off a cliff and Plo Koon deflected her. Insert avalanche scene. That's not a fight, really.


Got a link to a torrent or scans?

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Got a link to a torrent or scans?


On my phone atm, so no I don't. Check my RT tho. It has everything relevant to it.

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cs_zoltan
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Originally posted by Beniboybling
He's been in like 1, 2 lightsaber duels, and only in comic book panels. Not much to go off.

As a Djem So wielder though it only makes sense he'd make use of a two-handed grip.


Eh, no. He always fights with one hand. In every comic and in TCW too...I can't recall a single instance when he used two hands.

You should read Aurb's RT of him roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Right you said that, and I pointed out only in the scant source material he's been seen in. And comic book panels that don't show the entire fight.

On that basis you can't claim he never uses two hands lol.


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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right you said that, and I pointed out only in the scant source material he's been seen in. And comic book panels that don't show the entire fight.

On that basis you can't claim he never uses two hands lol.


I wanted to link you like 30 images from Aurb's RT but KMC didn't let me. So I'm gona turn your comment around: You can't claim Plo uses two hands when not a single ****ing time he is depicted to do so. He is always shown to use one hand, that's all there is to it. The end.

And no, saying how a Djem So duelist should fight is not good enough. Qui-Gon used a grounded strength based Ataru, so anything is possible.

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Before I get shit from Aurbere...

If you want to argue Plo's skill you should use the fact that he disarmed Ventress who is a Makashi master, which puts heavy focus on avoiding disarmament as a counter to Shii-Cho, which focuses on disarming.


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Before I get shit from Aurbere...

If you want to argue Plo's skill you should use the fact that he disarmed Ventress who is a Makashi master, which puts heavy focus on avoiding disarmament as a counter to Shii-Cho, which focuses on disarming.


I'm just watching you two now, lol, so that wasn't necessary. stick out tongue

But thanks anyway.

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I'm just watching you two now, lol, so that wasn't necessary. stick out tongue

But thanks anyway.


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I wanted to link you like 30 images from Aurb's RT but KMC didn't let me. So I'm gona turn your comment around: You can't claim Plo uses two hands when not a single ****ing time he is depicted to do so. He is always shown to use one hand, that's all there is to it. The end.

And no, saying how a Djem So duelist should fight is not good enough. Qui-Gon used a grounded strength based Ataru, so anything is possible.
The mainstay of Ataru is fast-paced and purely offensive kinetic combat, failing to see how Jinn's choice to dispense with acrobatics a significant deviation that proves "anything is possible."

The mainstay of Djem So is strength, and it incorporates a two-handed grip on a fundamental level, in fact its in the opening stance. Granted an argument can be made that Koon favoured a one-handed grip, but to suggest he abandoned two-handed completely based on very few showings is largely an appeal to an absence of evidence.

P.S. For the record he switches to a two-handed grip briefly here:

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Praise from Ant, Zoltan. You should put that on your profile.


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but to suggest he abandoned two-handed completely based on very few showings is largely an appeal to an absence of evidence.


It's not a few showings, and the consistancy is beyond explanation. Comic book artists had plenty of opportunity to depict him using two hands, yet they didn't. Suggesting that comics always skipped the part when he used two hands is pretty naive.

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Praise from Ant, Zoltan. You should put that on your profile.

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Beniboybling
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When you break it down it's really not as consistent as you make it out to be, first of all the only ones that are really relevant as those that depict lightsaber combat, as those are the only ones were strength would be a factor.

Taking the rest out of the equation leaves us with:

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Four panels. Which at the most prove he favoured one-hand, but that's all really.


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Four panels. Which at the most prove he favoured one-hand, but that's all really.


Yeah and you arbitrary try to dismiss it. If two handed grip is so fundamental for Djem So don't you think one of the most skilled Jedi in history would realize that?

It's almost as if his fighting style is not textbook...

It's very telling that he didn't find the need to exploit Makashi's weakness by using two hands, or to try to compensate for Savage's ridiculous physicals.

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Plo already lost to Ventress, add in Grievous and he gets his booty spanked.

Fisto beating shitty Robots and beating a Nerfed Grievous means nothing, team 2 should win every time.


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Not sure on Fisto Vs Grievous. Fisto was winning but not by much. Ventress would stomp Koon though so team 2.


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