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juggerman
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Originally posted by Silent Master
Given that his thermal imaging has proven inferior to regular vision, it's a Predator specific request.


It has proven better than normal vision as well and it is more than just thermal vision.


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It's demonstratively worse at picking up details and easy to fool.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Again it's more than just thermal vision. Pred cycles thru many different views. It also has been shown several times to easily pick up on things the human eye can't or has trouble like traps and cloaked Preds

But that's all pretty moot at this point since I've given proof Predator would indeed be able to see tiny Ant Man


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Yes, you've shown that the Predator can track a large scorpion as long as it doesn't move.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Ant-man ftw.

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Scorpion would be about the size of Ant Man. If you have any evidence movement would be an issue feel free to post it


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Scorpion would be about the size of Ant Man. If you have any evidence movement would be an issue feel free to post it


You need proof that movement makes tracking more difficult?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Movement has never proved an issue for a Predator in the past. If you are saying it would be now you would need to back it up


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Movement has never proved an issue for a Predator in the past. If you are saying it would be now you would need to back it up


Nice try, but all the things that the Predator has tracked while moving have also been dozens if not hundreds of times larger than Ant-man and thus easier to keep track of.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Predator can increase the "zoom" on his scan meaning Ant Man would seem no smaller than anything else it's tracked. So again if you believe movement would suddenly become an issue for Pred, please provide any evidence at all supporting it


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Increasing the zoom decreases the area he can see, making movement that much harder to compensate for.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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On a larger target sure. Not the case here


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Yes. It is the case here.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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It's been proven his size makes no difference to the Predator in terms of actually spotting him. There's nothing that shows Predator would have any issues keeping him in sight so long as Ant Man wasn't right up under it or climbing on the Pred like he was Falcon.


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Nice try, but it'd be more accurate to say that there is nothing showing that the Predator can keep a fast moving small object in sight.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Wrong again. Can't find the clip on youtube but in the first film during the final fight we see Arnold throw a rock to distract the Predator. Not only is the rock small AND fast moving, but it also has no heat signature. This all makes tracking it much harder yet it still is able to pick it up on it's sensor, lock on to it and fire(I don't remember it if hit it or not).

So there is quite a bit showing Predator can track Ant Man.


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As Juggerman did correctly point out though, regardless of whether the Pred could potentially track Ant-man to any useful degree, it makes no real difference. Scott beats his ass.


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As Juggerman did correctly point out though, regardless of whether the Pred could potentially track Ant-man to any useful degree, it makes no real difference. Scott beats his ass.
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I think the Pred could see him, but hitting him with that cannon from distance would be difficult. Remember that Scott will have a bit of an issue seeing the Predator as well if it's in camo mode. Also he never managed to KO (or even stun) Falcon who doesn't have close to the Pred's strength or durability.


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He wasn't trying to hurt Falcon. He was mostly trying to get past him and away from him, and resorted to screwing with Falcon's gear when he saw that it wasn't going to happen. Remember, he still specifically had to train to know just how hard to hit, because he was told that if he hit too softly it would have no effect, but if he hit too hard (because of all that mass and power focused into such a tiny being) he could actually kill someone.


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