Fisk looked slow as **** and was being rocked by Daredevil in that fight, whereas Bane could literally take a punch from Baleman to the face without flinching. Fisk is also clearly a brawler, whereas Bane is allegedly a martial artist, but frankly, who cares? Skill means nothing if the person you're fighting is much tougher, stronger, and more skilled than you.
The more I learn the more I think Baleman could literally strangle Fisk to death with Fisk's only response being to impotently try to pry his hands from his throat.
Fisk was slower than DD, but could still land plenty of hits. And DD can catch/dodge arrows, aim dodge and flip through automatic fire, casually dodge multiple shurikens tossed at him etc.
Fisk also took repeated blows from those billy clubs, with which we see DD easily one-shot KO people in S2 on several occasions, even just with tosses. Not to mention the several other hard blows he takes (he took Matt's blows about as good as Frank has IMO). During his prison fight with Frank, he also took a heavy combo of hits that would have been enough to heavily rock Daredevil and likely at least briefly knock him down (based on the fights between Matt & Frank) and barely stumbled. And people who have in fact actually watched the show know just how tough those two are, so Fisk showing a comparable ability to take their hits should be a good indication of how tough he is.
As for strength, he was a lot stronger than Matt, who himself could pick up and throw Fisk relatively easily. He also flipped a huge marble table in s1, while pissed, and also decap'd a guy with a car door. And in season 2 he was bench pressing several hundred lbs before meeting with Frank, and was barely breathing hard afterwards.
And what's more, Bane fought a old, beaten-up, out-of-retirement Batman, so it isn't even like he fought Bruce at his prime, like Ra's did.
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Fisk dominates. Bane beat Baleman; woopdee doo. Baleman looks like he is on muscle relaxers when he fights. Also, that wasn't even Baleman in his prime. It was an older and beat up Baleman at the end of his career. Bane gets stomped hard.
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I doubt anyone brought up Bane beating Baleman. It was him tossing around Baleman which is impressive due to Baleman's weight
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The slowest boxer can land hits on the fastest boxer if the fastest boxer isn't literally running away from the slow one, as long as the slow boxer can take a bunch of the fast one's hits. Being faster in a fight doesn't make you untouchable, it improves your hit landed/hit received ratio. A faster fighter might land four punches for every one the slow one throws, for example.
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And Baleman one-shot KOs people with his fists, yet Bane could literally take a bunch from Baleman without any reaction.
As far as I can tell, Baleman is literally physically stronger than any of them and Bane took combos from him without any reaction. So why is that impressive, in the context of this thread?
Are you referring to his judo flip in the fight I posted?
I could decapitate a guy with a car door. So could you. It isn't hard to pulp a man's head by repeatedly slamming a car door on it.
That Batman could also kick right through a brick wall once he got his aids, and was able to get himself back in shape for their second fight, which Bane was still dominating until his mask was broken.
Fisk is no weakling, and Matt/Frank is definitely in the same strength class as Baleman and much faster as well. He has taken out hordes of armed men in straight up fist-fights while injured and won. The only reason he won against Fisk despite being fresh was due to his bulletproof armor and speed, and was getting his ass kicked otherwise. Bane will win but he is not walking all over Fisk like he did to Baleman. He will have the fight of his life
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Based on? Nothing I've seen has convinced me that Bane couldn't literally beat Fisk to death with his bare hands without sustaining any injury.
Based on what is he in the same strength class as a man who can curl over two hundred pounds while prone and compromised and toss him over his body?
Also, bullshit. In that video I posted Fisk was ****ing dominated by Daredevil for most of the fight, with size and strength being the only thing posing a problem against Daredevil. Bane is stronger according to everything I've seen, and though Fisk's actor is bigger, Bane is clearly meant to be taller than Tom Hardy so the size difference isn't that large (he's depicted as clearly taller than Baleman, who is 6'0").
You should really watch the show yourself, because I am not listing 2 seasons worth of feats for these guys, just to give you a more informed perspective on the scaling.
To elaborate in one area, you can only appreciate the damage soak thing if you actually watch the show and witness the unbelievable amounts of punishment these guys can take. For example, Bats landing on Bane's knee totally took him out of that fight. Punisher takes a 15-20 foot drop off a water tower, lands spine first on the edge of a metal roof, bounces off and falls another 10+ feet, and gets back up and keeps fighting like nothing. And we see how DD & Frank affect each other with hits, how they affect normal people, and how they affect Fisk, so we can work out how tough he is based on that. But again, unless you have actually watched the show, no amount of explaining is going to help.
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It gives people something to do while they download porn or something?
I mostly use this site to keep track of all the latest news and trailers for things. People on this forum are usually really on the ball when it comes to those things.
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