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DarkSaint85
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Darth Sidious crushes her.

Then Cassie mind swaps with him, and he dies.

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Cassandra has tk, shields, and psi armor doe.

Shields and armor don't protect against bring crushed. Pals can crush someone inside a shield or inside armor. He has crushed ships and wrecked entire fleets. His force ability trumps her tk.

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Shields and armor don't protect against bring crushed. Pals can crush someone inside a shield or inside armor. He has crushed ships and wrecked entire fleets. His force ability trumps her tk.

Cassandra has TK doe

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Yeah, Sidious best TP feats include casually mindraping the some 20 billion population of Byss, mindwiping millions/billions of people to hide a star destroyer on Coruscant, mindraping Vader, and twisting DE Luke so thoroughly to the dark side that the latter forgot his own name. So gauge him off those, I guess.

Sure with plot devices anything goes, but I believe that is more tied to the force than simply Sidious' own powers.

Marvel telepaths have few planetary-scale feats because Magneto made longrange telepathy impossible, that's why Cerebra is so important.

Cassandra Nova has the greatest magnitude of telepathy we've seen, being capable of 10x Xavier and getting through shi'ar mental shields.

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Cassandra has TK doe

You must didn't read my post. My last sentence was literally,"His force ability trumps her tk."

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Does Sidious have defences against mindswapping?

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Does Sidious have defences against mindswapping?

We don't know. But he can crush her before she even achieves it.

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Cassandra stomps. Telepathically brutalizing an amped Xavier speaks for itself...

By "amped" you mean when he was using Cerebra?

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...Which amped his psychic powers. Yes.

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You must didn't read my post. My last sentence was literally,"His force ability trumps her tk."

But Cassandra Nova tanked Jean Psionic attack, when Jean was the acting as the Host Phoenix Force doe.

What have you done for me lately h1a8?

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We don't know. But he can crush her before she even achieves it.

Why do you say this?

She exists as psionic energy. And can do so without a physical body.

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...Which amped his psychic powers. Yes.

It did. Was superior to Cerebro, in fact.

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Why do you say this?

She exists as psionic energy. And can do so without a physical body.

once her physical body is destroyed then she loses. Otherwise, we can use a no limits fallacy and say that she can't be defeated by anyone. Also Pal can bfr people through both time and space with the force.

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Palpatine has time-dumped someone before? That's new to me.

Scans?

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once her physical body is destroyed then she loses. Otherwise, we can use a no limits fallacy and say that she can't be defeated by anyone. Also Pal can bfr people through both time and space with the force.

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Palpatine has time-dumped someone before? That's new to me.

Scans?

Actually I'm reaching a little bit. So I retract the statement.
Sith lords using an artifact called the darkstaff created forcestorms to send beings into the future (and across space). A thousand years later Pal learned how to create force storms by his own power. He never used it to send people in time but rather to send people through space (to another part of the galaxy).

Forcestorms are created by wormholes. Theoretically, someone can be sent through time using a wormhole.
So Pal time dumping is not an option here.

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once her physical body is destroyed then she loses. Otherwise, we can use a no limits fallacy and say that she can't be defeated by anyone. Also Pal can bfr people through both time and space with the force.

Erm, no. Where does it say destroying the physical body = loss?

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Does Sidious have defences against mindswapping?

In Legends Sidious did a considerable amount of mindswapping, both on others and himself. So while I don't think he is immune, he is at least familiar enough with the concept to swap himself back.

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