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Originally posted by leonidas
meh, depends on how you view rival. cm/supes are rivals when they go head-to-head sure, but by feats supes is WELL above marvel. the same would likely be the case were superman in marvel and fought hulk, or thor. head-to-head they would likely be very close (as they appeared to be in the avengers/jla) but by feats it's not close (at least with thor). depends on where you place more stock--direct battles between them, or extraneous feats. i'd contend that if they fought directly there would be almost no difference between cm and herc (similar to thor and cm in dc vs marvel--the best, most accurately depicted battle in that silly series imo) in terms of strength even though cm likely has better feats (though holding the heavens is a good one....)

of course the OP says no other powers, but now he says cm has his speed so that would be enough advantage to give cm a vast majority, so, meh.

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Originally posted by zopzop
It was Mortal Hercules and he was fighting Storm and a few others. She blasted him with lightening and he just laughed it off saying " I'm a bit surprised, myself. But now that I think about it...what moron would try to tame the son of Zeus with fire from heaven? My father IS the lightning!"
Here we go, Hercules Spider Island -
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Originally posted by leonidas
meh, depends on how you view rival. cm/supes are rivals when they go head-to-head sure, but by feats supes is WELL above marvel. the same would likely be the case were superman in marvel and fought hulk, or thor. head-to-head they would likely be very close (as they appeared to be in the avengers/jla) but by feats it's not close (at least with thor). depends on where you place more stock--direct battles between them, or extraneous feats. i'd contend that if they fought directly there would be almost no difference between cm and herc (similar to thor and cm in dc vs marvel--the best, most accurately depicted battle in that silly series imo) in terms of strength even though cm likely has better feats (though holding the heavens is a good one....)

of course the OP says no other powers, but now he says cm has his speed so that would be enough advantage to give cm a vast majority, so, meh.

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Originally posted by leonidas
meh, depends on how you view rival. cm/supes are rivals when they go head-to-head sure, but by feats supes is WELL above marvel. the same would likely be the case were superman in marvel and fought hulk, or thor. head-to-head they would likely be very close (as they appeared to be in the avengers/jla) but by feats it's not close (at least with thor). depends on where you place more stock--direct battles between them, or extraneous feats. i'd contend that if they fought directly there would be almost no difference between cm and herc (similar to thor and cm in dc vs marvel--the best, most accurately depicted battle in that silly series imo) in terms of strength even though cm likely has better feats (though holding the heavens is a good one....)

of course the OP says no other powers, but now he says cm has his speed so that would be enough advantage to give cm a vast majority, so, meh.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
They did not appear close in JLA/Avengers at all. Superman straight up overpowered Thor in terms of strength. That does not occurs between peers.

Thor and Hercules are a level below Superman and Cap in strength.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
They did not appear close in JLA/Avengers at all. Superman straight up overpowered Thor in terms of strength. That does not occurs between peers.

Thor and Hercules are a level below Superman and Cap in strength.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
They did not appear close in JLA/Avengers at all. Superman straight up overpowered Thor in terms of strength. That does not occurs between peers.

Thor and Hercules are a level below Superman and Cap in strength.

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Originally posted by leonidas
meh, depends on how you view rival. cm/supes are rivals when they go head-to-head sure, but by feats supes is WELL above marvel. the same would likely be the case were superman in marvel and fought hulk, or thor. head-to-head they would likely be very close (as they appeared to be in the avengers/jla) but by feats it's not close (at least with thor). depends on where you place more stock--direct battles between them, or extraneous feats. i'd contend that if they fought directly there would be almost no difference between cm and herc (similar to thor and cm in dc vs marvel--the best, most accurately depicted battle in that silly series imo) in terms of strength even though cm likely has better feats (though holding the heavens is a good one....)

of course the OP says no other powers, but now he says cm has his speed so that would be enough advantage to give cm a vast majority, so, meh.

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Wonder Woman >= Captain Marvel~Black Adam [also ~Thor/Hercules, if you want to include Marvel]

But, back to the thread, even if they're rough peers in strength, Captain Marvel is still much faster, and much more durable, than Hercules.