Arthur is not a supergenius, but he's no idiot either. and in character I wouldn't say he has any particular fighting style, but it certainly wouldn't be that of a dumbass brawler who would intentionally close the gap with Logan. If anything, Arthur is aware of and makes better use of his environment in a fight than just about anyone.
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Phrasing it this way, you're still wrong, BUT, it doesnt sound as brutally stupid as the first time around.
Next time just take a beat...and post the wrong response that will invite the least ridicule.
Arthur could literally grab chunks of concrete out of the ground and throw them like hypersonic snowballs. Logan doesent get knocked out usually due to pis
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i assumed a standard ring-style battle. in a city environment am def has a better chance. i don't see this being much different from logan fighting namor tbh and he has done well against namor in the past. tp wouldn't be a great choice here either as logan has some of the best tp defenses out there--and if this is current arthur, as i thought, tp is out the window anyway.
in a city am can get a majority, depending on the showings you want to use to support logan. in a ring-style match up am gets gutted far more times than not imo.
Assuming the fan fiction of Aquaman swinging cars holds true, which goes against how he has faced similar characters to Wolverine in combat since New 52, how would they be effective against somebody who can take Class 100 hits and keep going, on top of being agile and fast as hell?
Are thrown cars more potent than hits from Hulk?
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Last edited by Philosophía on Feb 16th, 2017 at 04:31 PM
We can go by lamp posts being used as a trident (as new 52 is sooo wedded to his, if we want to go by strict artwork). Seeing as the leap of logic to throw things is too far.
I mean, I'm not half a warrior that Arthur is portrayed to be, but I'd still think to throw a car. Or two. Or three, NYC seems full of them.
Are they more effective than the Hulk? Yes. Because pinning Logan under one, then two, then three 1 ton cars would immobilise him better than the Hulk's hand (which has caught him many a time).
Or, just run him through with a post which is being wielded like a trident. One not enough? Add another. And another.
For all the talk about his love of fisticuffs, of the JLA, he along with WW sure seem to be carrying their weapons a lot of the time.
So he's going to randomly rip a lamp post, because he doesn't have his trident? Ok. Let's go with this.
He swings it, Wolverine dodges it and cuts the highly durable lamp post in pieces.
Or he gets hit, cuts it into pieces, and continues the fight.
Now what? Will Wolverine wait until Arthur rips out a lamp post and do it again?
Will he simply stab Arthur in the heart, or is that an alternate fan fiction?
Is Logan going to stand there, while Aquaman randomly picks a car, puts on him, then another?
Is this before or after he rips out the lamp post, thinking it's equivalent to his trident?
Is the fight stipulation that Wolverine is stationary?
Can Wolverine attack?
Can Wolverine dodge?
In the thread he doesn't have the weapon. He has engaged people that have stabbed and hurt him in close range. I guess he's too stupid to pick random objects from around him, right?
Him fashioning a trident out of lamp post because he lacks one is a hilarious thought, though.
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Last edited by Philosophía on Feb 16th, 2017 at 04:45 PM
Except people are arguing that he will only ever display the behaviour he has displayed in comics.
He has never thrown things, therefore he won't throw things.
So the point being made is that if he's so slavishly devoted to his depiction, unable to change his behaviour, then yes, he's making erstwhile tridents and pinning things. Because apparently, he's unable to change his behaviour.
Sure, Wolverine is fast, but the strength required to lift cruise ships when applied to a car makes it pretty fast. Would it tag? Prob yes, prob not.
But to say he doesn't have long range weapons is false.
Apparently, we have to disregard character when discussing fights.
Sure, Aqua man isn't exactly Batman or WW in fighting skills. But apparently, 'throwing something' when even cavemen were doing it, is out of the question. Because we have never seen art depicting him do it.
Moreover, re read my posts. Never said who would win. Merely that to say there were no long range options is false.
You're arguing very specific things [lamposts, throwing cars] that don't hold under scrutiny. Furthermore, even if you are reasonable and you assume that in half of the fights Aquaman manages to tag Wolverine with the lampost/car, and then you go further and assume that in half of those cases it actually gets him a win somehow [which you won't be able to prove], that still doesn't give Aquaman even close to the majority.
Aquaman spitting on him is also a range weapon, and about as effective as it would be to throw cars at somebody who has taken hits from class 100s.
I'm trying to have you walk me through the fight as you would see it.. You're just randomly spewing shit like "Uhh...lampost because it looks like a trident. Uhhhh...throwing cars".
The only somewhat feasible tactic is Aquaman managing to drop a car on top of Wolverine. Assuming he hits a combat ready, highly agile moving around Wolverine with perfect timing, and Wolverine is somehow in a very specific position that he won't be able to move/slash his way out of the car, in no way is that even close to portraying the majority of the fights.
It's a random, very specific scenario that ventures in the realm of fan fiction because you feel obligated to find a way for Aquaman to win. And that is completely disingenuous.
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To say he is going to only punch and kick, despite having general knowledge of Wolverine, and seeing the foot long knives on each hand, is, frankly, a massive lowball of his intelligence.
Moreover, he's surrounded by all manner of objects, with no civilians around. I'm not exactly arguing that he'll suddenly become Bullseye, lol.
Philo, see my post about who wins. So eager were you to jump on me, you forgot to read the part where I said Aquaman wins, or that he wins due to lamp posts.
Wait, its because I never said that. I only said he had ranged options.
Randomly spewing? All I said was he was in NYC, surrounded by all manner of objects. Some of which were pole shaped, and analagous to tridents (IF we were following carver's logic of him only knowing how to fight a certain way).
Least you have carver on your side, all lubed up, you star quarterback you
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Feb 16th, 2017 02:25 PM
Thanks for proving my point.
