Bigger arms bigger swords..Legolas WOULD HAVE TO close distance. Once he does, he will have to block sword strikes. One sword strike from the mountain and those blades either break or his swords get tossed.
Saying legolas will dance away freely would be MERE FANATICISM!
The thing is, legolas has the speed, agility, strength, and fortitude, not to mention at least centuries of fighting experience, over the both of them, by a LOT.
Neither of them coult take on a cave trol, or a Mordor troll. Legolas can, and has. None of them could do what he did at helms Deep, or the feat with the Mumakil. Legolas can and has.
I want you to actually examine the show for me, and find every feat both Oberyn and pre zombie Gregor has onscreen. You'll learn just how little they have demonstrably shown. Gregor's BEST feat came from nearly hacking a horses head off. And Oberyn has even less showings than Gregor does. THIS is why you are getting beaten back by a lot of people in these threads, you have a lot of reliance on word of mouth, and little actual demonstrated substance onscreen.
Azog and Gothmog are both strategic and tactical commanders, one of whom managed to outmaneuver Gondorian soldiers, and oust them from Osgiliath, and every outpost they had along the Anduin river. The other managed to outmaneuver 3 other armies on his own planning as Sauron had retreated back to Mordor. So you see, when you refer to stupid creatures, you talk bollocks and you should feel ashamed.
Their history is all nice and that, but it's not quantifiable, soooo.... (please log in to view the image)
Except every single point I've raised is backed by movie scenes. You simply refuse to accept that and you call MY points unreasonable? Please dude, pull the other leg.
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Yeah legolas was turned into superman in the movies, lol. He can apparently move vertically by using falling rocks (figure that one out). Hes got the agility of 10 oberyns. And therefore i dont think either of them could touch him.
But....idk, i have never seen him engaging another good fighter besides orcs..and in most cases he uses his arrows so...I am not that confident as to support him.
I love Legolas, but i am aware that Oberyn is not a fool. I believe he will find a way....
The moment Legolas gets cut...Venom will work and well...I bet for a tie.
The safest bet for me here is a tie. I love Legolas but i can't go against reason and say he will fight the same way against two good warriors the way he fights stupid poor skilled orcs and trolls...
The main problem here is that Oberyn only ever fought the mountain, who he was toying with, but still not doing super spectacularly against. He got pegged a couple times. Admittedly not with gregors sword. But Lego Lass has so much more on screen feats. Even with just his little daggers or that time he used orcrist against bolg. Bolg was no slouch as far as i could tell. Im with you on the poison angle. I just dont think legolas ever actually got cut in the movies. His dodge rating is epic.
I have this problem with the movie versus forum rulesnyou know.
When you face main characters vs secondary ones it is NOT FAIR.
Cause people judge what is seen on screen, and secondary characters dont get that much.
For instance, Oberyn has fought Several persons in the books, and is considered amongst the best fighters in the realm...however we only get on scene on the shows in where he gets killed and then everyone assumes he is a bad fighter.
The thing is that Oberyn was in a vendetta against the Mountain, he wasnt fighting clearly. In this case he is.
So i still think Oberyn has a chance against Legolas. I still believe though that Legolas >Oberyn
Believe me i know, adn we do get some characters referencing this eve in the show, more so in the books. And its the opposite with legolas. The movies beefed him up like crazy. Its part of the reason i hate the hobbit movies, lol. I admit oberyn has a chance, i just dont think a very good one. Funny thing as well is that in the books he had armor. Or at least more of it. He even used a shield, lol.
Ik...Perhaps Impediment should make some exceptions for Secondary characters..
Look i am not saying Legolas will get killed in by Oberyn or the Mountain, am saying that the Poison will do the job.
That's why i declared it a tie. Cause as good as Legolas is, he will get a pinch of that lance, and when he does poison will kill him.
I think Legolas should be able to kill both Oberyn and Gregor, but the point am touching is that Oberyn is good enough as to harm Legolas...not kill him, but harm him.
That's my point. That in the end it is dead for both sides.
Impediment shouldn't have to change any of the rules that have been in place forever to accommodate your strangely fetishist love for GoT characters.
But you're wrong.
It took several days for Gregor to be incapacitated by the Manticore venom fully. And he was awake the entire time. Oberyn cut him a multitude of times and he was still fighting. Legolas is an immortal elf with superhuman abilities. Why would it even slow him down when it didn't stop Mountain?
Second. Oberyn would have to actually cut Legolas to poison him. Legolas has killed hundreds of enemies. He killed 41 at Helm's Deep without a scratch. In fact, the only person who actually injured him even slightly was Bolg. And that was during a fist fight when Legolas didn't have any room to dodge. The next fight Bolg couldn't land a single hit.
Third. If by some miracle Legolas is poisoned, you agree Oberyn and Mountain still get murdered by him right? So if they're dead in minutes, he still has at least a few days before the poison gets bad, so he would still win the fight.
Start at 17 seconds. This video shows Legolas casually strolling through a group of Orcs, dodging, blocking, and countering every single time they attack him. He's even using his bow and arrow from inches away while actively fighting.
He's not getting touched by the GoT guys, and you're a fanboy to the extreme if you give them the win. Well you are a fanboy to the extreme but yeah. Legolas wins as we see he is very capable with those knives.
Did i say it was to accomodate me!? I don't need the rule to accomodate me in order to know this is a certain tie! Oberyn will pinch him, but he and Gregor could give a better fight without that stupid rule.
Rules can be changed!
And for your information Newbie, Oberyn tampered the venom in order to make it last longer. Manticore poison is a fast venom. Oberyn modified it to last longer so he could get Gregor to confess.
So no, Legolas dies. And if the Mountain got affected by the venom, surely Legolas will. The poison gave the mountain severe pain, which made him fight awkwardly. In this case Oberyn could use a fast venom.
So, you can't argue my points, yet you don't have the integrity to admit it and instead resort to insults... Excellent. I believe this means I don't have toworry about anything you say at all now.
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