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Good job they can be retconned.
Given that the Hero is outright stated to be more powerful than Darth Angral by the end of Act I. That's the OOU source. Angral who was quite clearly within the realm of Darth Malgus as of Decieved and posdibly onwards. Malgus, obviously, is more powerful than Satele Shan.
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What does that have to do with anything? LMFAO. They can be retconned? Well, so can HoT's quotes, lol. Point being: they're not valid and don't carry as much weight as you think they do.
Having a higher rank in command means jacksh!t, given Adraas was of the same rank as Malgus and we all know how that went down. And when did Malgus call him his peer?
Malgus is by all accounts superior to Angral.
IIRC, Baras one-shot Angral. And IIRC, AP used the quote of Satele saying that Malgus is the greatest (?) Darkside presence (?) she ever met to prove Hope! Malgus > Baras.
Th quote specifically mentions Jedi power potential in the first sentence, that can be read to tie in with the Force presence Luke sensed, especially given it goes on to name strictly Jedi, despite the fact Luke thought DE Palpatine was the most powerful being to ever exist.
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Oh, so you mean Kyp Durron AND Exar Kun? It isn't much of a stretch to think nigh-full potential Durron - armed with knowledge from one of the most deadliest Sith Lords ever- in Exar Kun, could be a greater threat than Palpatine, all things considered. It wasn't Kyp by himself, as you'd have others to believe.
The rest isn't relevant to the Kyp point, nor do I care to comment.
Phuck this shit, why can't I edit my post? But yeah - none of them quotes prove Kyp > Luke or Palpatine. He can be better than old Ben and deathbed Yoda however.
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This is all a moot point though, from the start of the prologue we know the HoT is nearly an expert duelist already. His feats as of the prologue make him the greatest Padawan in generations. After the prologue, the Hero is already praised as the most powerful Jedi on Tython by four separate people.
Throughout Act 1 we already have numerous Sith and Jedi all saying he's the most powerful Jedi in the Order, given the sequence of events. Act 1 HoT should already be more powerful than Act II Barsen'thor. A title which is only bestowed upon the most prodigious Force users in Jedi history.
By the end of the Act, Shan calls the HoT the Order's finest. It's not that much after Act 1 that HoT is also bestowed the title of Battlemaster of the Jedi Order. Meaning Act 1 HoT isn't just already well-versed in the seven forms but it also mean the HoT is well on his way to being the premier duelist of the entire Jedi Order.
Let's not even get started on how impressive it is for HoT to have already butchered Darth Angral.
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Given no specific power growth was ever mentioned, you'd have an unquantifiable difference between them. Regardless, Shan has Return and Hope Malgus above Baras, who was above Angral. So your "scaling" falls apart.
And then Malgus proceeded to wreck him. See what I'm saying? A higher state of command =/=
Ah yes, those feats of besting Bengel Morr or whatever his name is, who was better than Orgus Din who as we all know is Count Dooku level.
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Beat Kun? What are you talking about? The only time they interact is when Luke figures out how to interact in the same way as Kun and touches him. Kun just leaves after that.
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Again, I'd like a legitimate quote. And can you quantify how much he's grown? Even if it's considerable, he'd still at best be equal to the Baras Satele fought and considered sub-Malgus.
I was talking Adraas, you imbecile.
It's not lowballing, it's his feats are legitimately trash compared to someone frequently giving pause to Asajj Ventress and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
You've yet to actually either quantify or properly defend that "scaling". Did Satele Shan or Scourge even meet Aryn Leneer directly?
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