Or, again peak Graviton had every hero on earth in his grip, many of which have powers that work without touching (TK, TP) and had no issues, so, yeah.
faster than death is unquantifiable, also they were running outside of time/space during that race I.E UNQUANTIFIABLE. Professor Zoom wasn't FTL, period and neither was wally
each time Wally runs FTL, he dissappears into the speed force, and THAT'S consistent. even in rebirth with his battle with abra kadabra he disappeared into the speed force going FTL
I know this want at me but, w. powers on its not about outspeeding, its about, its already happening.
Flash wouldnt be able to say, punch Kitty Pryde before she phased, as she’d be phased.
And w. Graviton we’re talking a whole lot more than phasing being on effect as the match starts.
That would cause his mental functions to cease and his grip on the battlefield would stop.
Still not seeing anything that says Graviton outspeeds Wally, though.
Powers on doesn't mean the entire battlefield is held down in a grip, any more than a TK related character starts a match with it under his grip, Or Dr Strange/Fate starting a match with their spells already cast/in effect.
Probably that gravity seems to affect things universally in our reality at the same time ACROSS the Universe. If Graviton is able to control a force like that ...
Riv, DS quoted the rule above which perfectly addresses what you are saying.
"Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not."
Unless Graitron walks around with everyone crushed against the ground 24/7, it is a consciously activated power. Picture this: At the start of a track meet, when the official says, "On your marks, get set...."- *BANG* the starting gun goes off. That's when everyone moves. Running starts are not allowed. lol
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not surprising, frankly, as the sf is so haxx and tends to negate a lot of physics like friction and...gravity as flash can run on clouds, up huge buildings and has even run in the air. he would ko graviton before graviton had the chance to think about controlling gravity unless you want to play the pis card or low ball. the fight could be over in a picosecond--as he has done on panel.
That doesn't mean Graviton would be unable to affect Flash or gravity has no limitations on him. SF allows him to counter the laws of physics, but it does not mean he is beyond them, he isn't. Especially in that era (I don't remember if that scan is before he transcended or before but it's close to the time period).
Flash being able to KO Graviton before he can react in a picosecond is only a little less likely than Graviton turning the Flash into paste instantly with his gravity.
I swear, some of these scenarios/claims...they are the exact opposite of what someone who consistently reads the Flash would actually claim.