Aquaman & Mera & Wonder Woman vs Mighty Avengers

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tranqs piercing AM?

Armor piercing could break the skin if used by a high velocity rifle. Or do you think that this would fail? I know for sure that Diana's lasso would have a negative effect on Sentry. Magical items or spells seem to have made him react violently like his run in with Doom.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Black Widow solos ...my god

Wait, did I actually say that? She is a factor is what I said.

Originally posted by zopzop
You think? What's stopping her from ending him like Awakened Hydrman did?

If not Simon, Tony could. The Avenger have more to draw from, which is why there is no reason that they shouldn't that a healthy majority.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm surprised you didn't ask me how Awakened Hydroman wrecked Wonder Man (a tactic Mera could employ if she wanted to).

Nice hydroman scans 👆

I still don't see your position on Sentry, though. Mighty Avengers Sentry, in particular, wasn't really all that, baring the void. Blue Marvel [the same guy who had problems with King Hyperion i.e. ~depowered Juggernaut level physically dude] KOd him, Hercules was toying with him [admittedly, Bob was holding back, but still, he never impressed me against...anyone, really]:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352421-4333517032-g7RWA.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352422-4479923339-97sL5.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352423-3386464494-Fpi5B.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352424-7976528368-b59bC.jpg
Then we have him [with backup, no less] against Red Hulk:

..and plenty of stuff like this.
We have the good fight against Photon, the fight against WWH and, well...?
I'm not even going to get into the 'breaking the lasso' part since that's crazy talk, zop!

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Black Widow solos ...my god

I assume the only guy whose posts I can't see said that. Guess why I can't see his posts? Exactly.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I was checking out to see if this:
http://i.imgur.com/P7NUCFI.jpg
...really applies to Iron Man, without him using special prep. I know he has feats of blocking TP [like from Red Onslaught], so I guess that could work, since her power is basically TP. And he has TP inhibitors:
http://i.imgur.com/x7Hcwxo.png
but...
I'm not sure if it's exactly the same thing, since she's TPing the water itself, and not his brain or anything, so the inhibitors themselves don't work unless he...inhibts TP in all of his body/organs?

Nice hydroman scans 👆

I still don't see your position on Sentry, though. Mighty Avengers Sentry, in particular, wasn't really all that, baring the void. Blue Marvel [the same guy who had problems with King Hyperion i.e. ~depowered Juggernaut level physically dude] KOd him, Hercules was toying with him [admittedly, Bob was holding back, but still, he never impressed me against...anyone, really]:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352421-4333517032-g7RWA.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352422-4479923339-97sL5.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352423-3386464494-Fpi5B.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/6352424-7976528368-b59bC.jpg
Then we have him [with backup, no less] against Red Hulk:

..and plenty of stuff like this.
We have the good fight against Photon, the fight against WWH and, well...?
I'm not even going to get into the 'breaking the lasso' part since that's crazy talk, zop!

I assume the only guy whose posts I can't see said that. Guess why I can't see his posts? Exactly.

1) Regarding Mera/IM : for sure she's not using TP against his mind, she's manipulating the water in the environment. So TP blockers wouldnt' do jack against her power. I'm just assuming his suit is sealed like Manta's is/was. If not, he's phucked.

2) Wait, you are using THAT specific version of Sentry? Then that changes everything. Team DC solidly.

PS A non emo Sentry WILL destroy that lasso if he wanted to Philo. If not through brute strength then through his matter manipulation abilities.

Probably because I didn't actually say that.

Originally posted by zopzop
For some reason, I can't quote you. Only use 'quick quote' and even then I can't preview or edit it, just comes up blank. Oh well...

1) Regarding Mera/IM : for sure she's not using TP against his mind, she's manipulating the water in the environment. So TP blockers wouldnt' do jack against her power. I'm just assuming his suit is sealed like Manta's is/was. If not, he's phucked.

2) Wait, you are using THAT specific version of Sentry? Then that changes everything. Team DC solidly.

PS A non emo Sentry WILL destroy that lasso if he wanted to Philo. If not through brute strength then through his matter manipulation abilities.

Where was it explitly stated that Sentry was weak during Blue Marvels mini series? Phil has basically Jack shit in terms of proof concerning the Juggernauts power levels, as it fluctuated wildly from going toe to toe against King Hyperion to being spite raped by the Wrecking Crew. Ben Grimm beat them. Then again, by all means low ball away. Not to mention continuity between writers has been dubious at best.

Originally posted by zopzop
For some reason, I can't quote you. Only use 'quick quote' and even then I can't preview or edit it, just comes up blank. Oh well...

1) Regarding Mera/IM : for sure she's not using TP against his mind, she's manipulating the water in the environment. So TP blockers wouldnt' do jack against her power. I'm just assuming his suit is sealed like Manta's is/was. If not, he's phucked.

2) Wait, you are using THAT specific version of Sentry? Then that changes everything. Team DC solidly.

PS A non emo Sentry WILL destroy that lasso if he wanted to Philo. If not through brute strength then through his matter manipulation abilities.

Yeah, non-Void Sentry isn't all that. Wonder Woman can at least break even, while MERA dumps the Pacific Ocean on the rest of the team. 😆

Originally posted by zopzop
For some reason, I can't quote you. Only use 'quick quote' and even then I can't preview or edit it, just comes up blank. Oh well...

1) Regarding Mera/IM : for sure she's not using TP against his mind, she's manipulating the water in the environment. So TP blockers wouldnt' do jack against her power. I'm just assuming his suit is sealed like Manta's is/was. If not, he's phucked.

2) Wait, you are using THAT specific version of Sentry? Then that changes everything. Team DC solidly.

PS A non emo Sentry WILL destroy that lasso if he wanted to Philo. If not through brute strength then through his matter manipulation abilities.

2). Yeah, that's why I said the Mighty Avengers, and not just them separately. I didn't want to go into 'Void' territory here. So it's literally just that team [who faced Blue Marvel, to keep it straight-forward], plucked out and put up against T1.

I disagree about the Void [well, the physical part, matter manipulation is arguable] but meh, not the thread.

Originally posted by Stoic
Armor piercing could break the skin if used by a high velocity rifle. Or do you think that this would fail? I know for sure that Diana's lasso would have a negative effect on Sentry. Magical items or spells seem to have made him react violently like his run in with Doom.

I personally don't think they would work. Because you don't just load a normal assault rifle with tranq darts - one usually uses an air rifle or something similar; i.e., something far less powerful.

But meh, comics. I can see writers ignoring this.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tranqs piercing AM?

It's possible, but he's resisted powerful sedatives before so there's no guarantee they'd work on him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I personally don't think they would work. Because you don't just load a normal assault rifle with tranq darts - one usually uses an air rifle or something similar; i.e., something far less powerful.

But meh, comics. I can see writers ignoring this.

Cool.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's possible, but he's resisted powerful sedatives before so there's no guarantee they'd work on him.

Glad you guys didn't attempt to twist my words. I was just saying that Janet, Black Widow, and Wasp are factors that shouldn't be ignored, especially since Janet can shrink done and zap any of them in the ear lobe for a possible KO. She's shot through steel plate with her stings.

If it seemed like I was twisting anything, my bad, I was just responding to DS. No offence intended.

I think Wasp can be an annoyance, but I don't see her putting down Arthur or Diana. Maybe Mera, but not sure.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If it seemed like I was twisting anything, my bad, I was just responding to DS. No offence intended.

I think Wasp can be an annoyance, but I don't see her putting down Arthur or Diana. Maybe Mera, but not sure.

It wasn't you. I made a statement about how Black Widow, Jessica, and Wasp were factors, and Sin made it seem like I said that Black Widow was going to solo field. If you go back, you'll see the attempt to twist my words.

Wonder Woman would without a doubt unleash the void after she starts hacking off Sentry limbs.

But not taking that into account...I favor Avengers slightly.

Originally posted by Stoic
It wasn't you. I made a statement about how Black Widow, Jessica, and Wasp were factors, and Sin made it seem like I said that Black Widow was going to solo field. If you go back, you'll see the attempt to twist my words.

No word twisting was needed. I said Widow, Wasp and Jess are non factors. You stated that Widow could tranq AM and Mera from a mile away leaving Diana alone on the field. Your words not mine. Im just highlighting the ridiculousness of your statement

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No word twisting was needed. I said Widow, Wasp and Jess are non factors. You stated that Widow could tranq AM and Mera from a mile away leaving Diana alone on the field. Your words not mine. Im just highlighting the ridiculousness of your statement

There was no ridiculousness. The only ridiculousness is your statement of saying that they were non factors which I evidently proved you wrong. See what I did there?

Next time don't attempt to twist my words before you read the entire statement that I made. None of the characters on the field are non factors. It's not as if Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Mera are Celestial level beings that are fully immune to these so called non factors that you've presented them to be.

Originally posted by Stoic
There was no ridiculousness. The only ridiculousness is your statement of saying that they were non factors which I evidently proved you wrong. See what I did there?

Next time don't attempt to twist my words before you read the entire statement that I made. None of the characters on the field are non factors. It's not as if Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Mera are Celestial level beings that are fully immune to these so called non factors that you've presented them to be.

Lol seriously? Stoic u made a bad statement. It happens. Create the thread....all three of these street levelers versus 1 dc character and see how often the word stomp gets used.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No word twisting was needed. I said Widow, Wasp and Jess are non factors. You stated that Widow could tranq AM and Mera from a mile away leaving Diana alone on the field. Your words not mine. Im just highlighting the ridiculousness of your statement

Originally posted by Stoic
Power is great but Widow can make a shot dead on 2 miles out. Diana would be the only one to possibly stop this if it were aimed at her. Widow could take out Arthur and Mera without killing them with tranquilizer rounds.

lol

Originally posted by -Pr-
he's resisted powerful sedatives before

Avengers win. Sentry is to much. Take him out of the picture and it could go either way.

Seen my post saying WW solos. That was most def a bad type. Sentry solos.