Originally posted by eaebiakuyaWhen they first attacked him, he slapped Thor away, and then restrained Jane with his shapeshifting, until Thor came back and forced him to free her, then they attacked again and won [with Jane hitting him full on with the hammer in the face, and him not missing a beat, answering your question of "why doesn't Gladiator just hit him in the face"]. Losing to two Thors is not something that puts him below Gladiator. Looking above each of them individually, to that extreme, does.
He barely fought against the 2 at same time.
This is consistent with his first encounter with Thor, where a backslap [again] almost broke his spine:
https://imgur.com/a/sh3c0r8
And a headbutt was so strong, another one would have also broken his spine, forcing Thor to retreat:
https://imgur.com/a/ujR42Mw
In short - if Apocalypse gets his hands on him, he'd hold him down and have his way with him.
Originally posted by eaebiakuyaSure. The 'bullrush' is something that is feasible [I mean -- Heimdall tanked it], but getting close to Apoc is dangerous, as he could just give him the Ikaris special:
About speed, Gladiator has "combat speed" feats too (not only travel), in a full capability fight, i dont see why dont use this, or even use his "galaxy blink" bull rush attack.
https://imgur.com/a/a95xyQ4
Gladiator is more durable than Ikaris, but Apoc's level of strength combined with his shapeshifting [which - again - has restrained Jane] would make this very applicable.
In terms of non-flying, Gladiator's greatest combat speed feat is the 'nanoseconds' perception - if you take statements at face value. That is, depending on how many 'nanoseconds' it refers to, highly relativistic to more. If we don't just take statements, and show how fast he actually moves without flying [i.e. like this: http://i.imgur.com/5MYSw50.jpg] it would be lower. Apocalypse's shapeshifting alone operates at a level where he can wrap itself around Cyclops' optic blast:
https://imgur.com/a/k62WSKz
Casually teleport out of its way
https://imgur.com/a/zWiK9cq
Which is specifically light speed:
https://imgur.com/a/SxZB6xi
Now, that doesn't make him lightspeed [we also have to take into the visors: https://imgur.com/a/WkWsbTJ], but within the context where his shapeshifting allows him to overcome Quicksilver's speed:
https://imgur.com/a/nl4cDNn
while he was literally on his death bed [this detail doesn't get mentioned enough] so that's his very weakened level of speed:
https://imgur.com/a/WzKCzYg
It shows that Apoc is quite fast. Fast enough to not get blitz-beaten? Perhaps not. But a case can be made.
And as a bonus, here's him shapeshifting around Ikaris's vision-blast, also:
https://imgur.com/a/T2DHDX6
I haven't even gotten into the Apocalypse's vast abilities.
He can not only teleport himself, but he can also teleport other people, even from a distance. He has teleported Hulk right next to him while hundreds of miles away:
https://imgur.com/a/nDdXzqi
He has forcefully teleported High-Evolutionary:
https://imgur.com/a/WDDXkEq
...Apoc could simply teleport/shapeshift into him [in more ways than one].
Not to mention Apocalypse can also make forcefields...[which have easily restrained Exodus]
