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abhilegend
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Modern LT gets stomped by Mxy.

Modern LT is but a whisper of what he used to be.

Mxy is uber powerful, amongst the top echelon of cats ever created,
he should be comfortably high on the list (ever) of either company imo.

That legit LT showing I posted, is just for informational purposes.
In that particular depiction,
the LT and Spectre were literally responsible for the creation of both sides, in their entirety.

LMAO, DC comics was created by a marvel character. Listen to this guy.


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... The forum ninny strikes again.

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In Adventures of the X-Men:

Originally, the story involved the DC and Marvel entirety,
and Mike Carlin,
who was currently the Executive Editor at DC
,

approved the project, added his ideas and allowed his name to be highlighted.

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The person who wrote the "Brothers" bio (Jeff Christiansen)

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm (Jeff goes by the nickname "Snood")

Is the same guy
who is "Head Handbook Writer"
of the handbook where LT's bio is
. (and any handbook from 2004 up) smile

(2006 official handbook of LT's bio)


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So, without question, the LT's bio
(concerning the Two Megaverses)

is referring to Marvel and another Company.

Why?

Because in his view, (Jeff)

Marvel and DC and other companies are what? ... Megaverses! thumb up

(2004)


http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

"As seen in the DC vs Marvel limited series,
the Brothers encompass their entire respective multiverses

(i.e. The Marvel Brother encompasses both the mainstream Marvel universe
and its alternate realities such as Earth-Days of Future past etc.)

It extends beyond just their Multiverses, though,
as realms such as the New Universe, outside of the mainstream Marvel Multiverse, were affected.
However, they do not encompass the entire Omniverse,

only DC and Marvel Megaverses.

The Omniverse is the term used to describe all realities and all multiverses,
whereas Megaverse is a term
(coined by Snood)
which is used to describe all multiverses within one line of comics.
All of it is within the Omniverse, whether or not it is in the comics
."


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(2005 Handbook description of a Megaverse) Jeff Christiansen feels the same:

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"We have coined the term Megaverse

to include realms associating with a particular line of comics
"


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(2006 Handbook description of a Megaverse) Jeff Christiansen feels the same:

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So, I'm not going back and forth anymore since this seals the deal.

If you're a serious person,
at-least you'll admit that the LT's bio did not mean two "megaverses" in Marvel,
but instead TWO SEPARATE Companies
. thumb up

Now, you wanna say, well that's true I can't argue against that, but that still isn't DC. Fine.

But you have to admit, that they aren't two megaverses in Marvel.
It's actually two lines of comics according to the guy who wrote it. (Jeff/Snood)

Coincidentally it just happens to be the Brother from DC vs Marvel
corroborated by the writers of DC vs Marvel lol. But whatever.


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The Brothers Handbook bio: (and the contributors to the Brothers profile)

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

First Appearance: DC vs. Marvel#1 (1996)

Other appearances: DC vs. Marvel#2-4 (March-May, 1996)

... Adventures of the X-Men#12 (March, 1997)


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abhilegend
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
... The forum ninny strikes again.

-------------------------------------------

In Adventures of the X-Men:

Originally, the story involved the DC and Marvel entirety,
and Mike Carlin,
who was currently the Executive Editor at DC
,

approved the project, added his ideas and allowed his name to be highlighted.

(please log in to view the image)

----------------------------------------


The person who wrote the "Brothers" bio (Jeff Christiansen)

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm (Jeff goes by the nickname "Snood")

Is the same guy
who is "Head Handbook Writer"
of the handbook where LT's bio is
. (and any handbook from 2004 up) smile

(2006 official handbook of LT's bio)


(please log in to view the image)

So, without question, the LT's bio
(concerning the Two Megaverses)

is referring to Marvel and another Company.

Why?

Because in his view, (Jeff)

Marvel and DC and other companies are what? ... Megaverses! thumb up

(2004)


http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

"As seen in the DC vs Marvel limited series,
the Brothers encompass their entire respective multiverses

(i.e. The Marvel Brother encompasses both the mainstream Marvel universe
and its alternate realities such as Earth-Days of Future past etc.)

It extends beyond just their Multiverses, though,
as realms such as the New Universe, outside of the mainstream Marvel Multiverse, were affected.
However, they do not encompass the entire Omniverse,

only DC and Marvel Megaverses.

The Omniverse is the term used to describe all realities and all multiverses,
whereas Megaverse is a term
(coined by Snood)
which is used to describe all multiverses within one line of comics.
All of it is within the Omniverse, whether or not it is in the comics
."


--------------------------------

(2005 Handbook description of a Megaverse) Jeff Christiansen feels the same:

(please log in to view the image)

"We have coined the term Megaverse

to include realms associating with a particular line of comics
"


--------------------------------

(2006 Handbook description of a Megaverse) Jeff Christiansen feels the same:

(please log in to view the image)

---------------------------------------------------

So, I'm not going back and forth anymore since this seals the deal.

If you're a serious person,
at-least you'll admit that the LT's bio did not mean two "megaverses" in Marvel,
but instead TWO SEPARATE Companies
. thumb up

Now, you wanna say, well that's true I can't argue against that, but that still isn't DC. Fine.

But you have to admit, that they aren't two megaverses in Marvel.
It's actually two lines of comics according to the guy who wrote it. (Jeff/Snood)

Coincidentally it just happens to be the Brother from DC vs Marvel
corroborated by the writers of DC vs Marvel lol. But whatever.


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===========================================

===========================================

-------------------------------------------------------


The Brothers Handbook bio: (and the contributors to the Brothers profile)

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

First Appearance: DC vs. Marvel#1 (1996)

Other appearances: DC vs. Marvel#2-4 (March-May, 1996)

... Adventures of the X-Men#12 (March, 1997)


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So much mental gymnastics that its not even funny.

And Ron Marz had Access come to Kyle in DCU in Jun 1997.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern_Vol_3_87

And Access pretty much reiterated DC vs Marvel in Unlimited Access 1 which happened in Dec, 1997.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Unlimited_Access_Vol_1_1

Anybody can read it here.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Un...ssue-1?id=76650

While Adventures of X-men occurred in March 1997.

http://marvel.wikia.com/The_Adventu..._X-Men_Vol_1_12

Adventures of X men is entirely non canon to DC. Unlimited Access is and that reiterated DC vs Marvel where LT was a gnat to Brothers.

Shut up troll.


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the brothers was retconned

pre-retcon brothers from marvel vs dc crossover >>LT and Spectre


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by MrMind
the brothers was retconned

pre-retcon brothers from marvel vs dc crossover >>LT and Spectre

No, they weren't. Unlimited Access which was published AFTER Adventures of X men confirmed it.

Don't listen to the bullshit.


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In DC vs Marvel, LT and Spectre almost decimated both Brothers
when they merged them by force.

... not bad for gnats. erm
quote: (post)
Originally posted by abhilegend

So much mental gymnastics that its not even funny.

And Ron Marz had Access come to Kyle in DCU in Jun 1997.

And Access pretty much reiterated DC vs Marvel in Unlimited Access 1 which happened in Dec, 1997.

Anybody can read it here.

While Adventures of X-men occurred in March 1997.

... So thanx for helping my point you simplistic troll.

So much mental stupidity it is funny.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by abhilegend

Adventures of X men is entirely non canon to DC.

At the time it was published, it was canon to DC.

-------------------------------------------

Originally, the story involved the DC and Marvel entirety,
and Mike Carlin,
who was currently the Executive Editor at DC
,

approved the project, added his ideas and allowed his name to be highlighted.

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Again, your comedic "Access" googoogaga doesn't contradict my posts.

Because you trollified child,
it was the LT and Spectre who were changed NOT the Brothers. laughing

The LT and Spectre were re-written as being above the Brothers, only difference. thumb up
quote: (post)
Originally posted by abhilegend

Shut up troll.

How dem kids taste?


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abhilegend
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
In DC vs Marvel, LT and Spectre almost decimated both Brothers
when they merged them by force.

... not bad for gnats. erm

... So thanx for helping my point you simplistic troll.

So much mental stupidity it is funny.

At the time it was published, it was canon to DC.

-------------------------------------------

Originally, the story involved the DC and Marvel entirety,
and Mike Carlin,
who was currently the Executive Editor at DC
,

approved the project, added his ideas and allowed his name to be highlighted.

(please log in to view the image)

----------------------------------------

Again, your comedic "Access" googoogaga doesn't contradict my posts.

Because you trollified child,
it was the LT and Spectre who were changed NOT the Brothers. laughing

The LT and Spectre were re-written as being above the Brothers, only difference. thumb up

How dem kids taste?

LT and Spectre took the brothers by surprise. Otherwise, they were getting ignored like fleas.

Unlimited Access is edited by Tom Brevoort AND Mike Carlin.

Like I said, shut up troll.


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I get what abhi is saying.

During Unlimited Access(which was indeed published months after Adventures of the X-Men, which technically makes it the more authoritative source), Access recalls the events of the DC vs. Marvel crossover exactly as they took place, and even describes the Brothers:
https://i.imgur.com/XxLJdhV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PTDm9Rt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pakpiYT.jpg
"The two "Brothers" fill our vision. I think they somehow symbolize the two universes, or something like that... They're overpowering...Infinite...Incomprehensible."

And considering that Access still had full working knowledge of LT and Spectre, given that he literally watched them try(and fail miserably) to and stop the Brothers during the crossover:
https://i.imgur.com/gGpFSWx.jpg

...I'd say describing the Brothers the way he did is pretty telling.


That being said, I see two possibilities here:
a.) The Brothers were retconned to sub-LT-level in Adventures of the X-Men, and then retconned back to their superior DC vs. Marvel levels a few months later in Unlimited Access.

-OR-

b.) The 'twin entities' LT was holding in Adventures of the X-Men weren't the same Brothers from DC vs. Marvel in the first place.



...That's my take, at least. Really not interested in arguing about it, though.


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thumb upclear as day.

another myth busted i guess


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Both DC and Marvel have retcon their verse since the two brothers. So why are we using them as any basis? If we’re using the brothers as a basis, then that means every comics that came after that arc can’t be use.

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Dammmmmmn son, the dedication above Squall is beginning to become legendary.
That's a kmc uber feat, in such a short period of time.
Shiiiit, taking the art to new levels. How pathetic.

Anyway, gibberish aside ...

Finally, one of few sensible posts. G, wut up! ...
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007

During Unlimited Access(which was indeed published months after Adventures of the X-Men,
which technically makes it the more authoritative source)

The DC-Marvel Brothers bio was updated in 2004.
But, that aside, the Access Unlimited depictions do not contradict the bio.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007

Access recalls the events of the DC vs.
Marvel crossover exactly as they took place, and even describes the Brothers:

"The two "Brothers" fill our vision. I think they somehow symbolize the two universes, or something like that... They're overpowering...Infinite...Incomprehensible."

"serene in his Omnipotence" ... the LT being described while the Brothers are on his palm.

Access, is just a man who can dimension hop. He's not a cosmic entity. I'm not surprised by his awe.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007

And considering that Access still had full working knowledge of LT and Spectre,
given that he literally watched them try(and fail miserably)
to and stop the Brothers during the crossover

They failed miserably after nearly obliterating both of them prior in the story.

LT and Spectre warped the Brothers by force, merging them,
this warp was going to tear them apart.
Heck, even separating them was near fatal.
Access (who at the time possess a shard of power of the Brothers)
had to help the LT and Spectre in the separation process.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007

That being said, I see two possibilities here:
a.) The Brothers were retconned to sub-LT-level in Adventures of the X-Men, and then retconned back to their superior DC vs. Marvel levels a few months later in Unlimited Access.

-OR-

b.) The 'twin entities' LT was holding in Adventures of the X-Men weren't the same Brothers from DC vs. Marvel in the first place.

The Brothers were not depowered or diminished in status.

The LT and Spectre were elevated beyond them instead.

This is why when Access saw the same Brothers in Access Unlimited,
he didn't even allude to the LT's or Spectre's interference or existence.


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laughing out loud


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abhilegend
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Look at the Living Tribunal beating both brothers.

https://i.imgur.com/gGpFSWx.jpg

Doesn't that look magnificent.

/Mr Master


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by abhilegend
Look at the Living Tribunal beating both brothers.

https://i.imgur.com/gGpFSWx.jpg

Doesn't that look magnificent.

/Mr Master
the ignorance is crazy. its basically- "im going to ignore everything that doesnt agree with my opinion because i want this one feat ive been peddling for years to still seem relevent". some people just cant take those blinders off smile


also this-
https://i.postimg.cc/fTsdMtsm/0.jpg
"power is unleashed that none have ever witnessed. and the spectre and living tribunal are AWED"

and that would be the SAME bros access recalled..the SAME lt and spectre that he remembered fighting them..etc.

i dont get why someone try to pretend like spectre or lt were meant to be stronger then the brothers in that story?the last issue made it crystal clear what the intent was, and the access issue you mentioned cemented those events. the bros were on a completely different level then them. lt and spectre were gnats in comparison

the access issue>the xmen adventures issue. and bios mean less than nothing..anyone who has to lean so heavily on them should be able to see how flimsy their opinions actually are, id think


thats just how it is


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
the ignorance is crazy. its basically- "im going to ignore everything that doesnt agree with my opinion because i want this one feat ive been peddling for years to still seem relevent". some people just cant take those blinders off smile


also this-
https://i.postimg.cc/fTsdMtsm/0.jpg
"power is unleashed that none have ever witnessed. and the spectre and living tribunal are AWED"

and that would be the SAME bros access recalled..the SAME lt and spectre that he remembered fighting them..etc.

i dont get why someone try to pretend like spectre or lt were meant to be stronger then the brothers in that story?the last issue made it crystal clear what the intent was, and the access issue you mentioned cemented those events. the bros were on a completely different level then them. lt and spectre were gnats in comparison

the access issue>the xmen adventures issue. and bios mean less than nothing..anyone who has to lean so heavily on them should be able to see how flimsy their opinions actually are, id think


thats just how it is

And Spectre being a peer to LT is even more damaging. Mxy has made Spectre his ***** multiple times.


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These trolls are unhinged. laughing out loud


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One more thing, Unlimited Access is undisputedly canon to DC comics, Access even went to DC universe to search for Green Lantern in GL 87.

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Shown here.
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That's how you prove something is canon, not pointing out editor's names and shit.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
These trolls are unhinged. laughing out loud

Shut up.


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So still nothing? ... except further proving my point.
I know it's unwittingly cause you're anxiousness to ever lowball clouds your judgement.
But yeah ninny, thanx anyway. laughing out loud

Damn, I figured all that time in the basement you'd come up with something, but ... nada again.

You

The Brothers got owned by LT and Spectre, deliberately warped into a merger, ha!
and had it not been for Access' help using shards found in Cap, Bats and himself,
the LT and Spectre would've inadvertently obliterated the Brothers in the separation.

Go pray my boy, you're not there yet, and from the looks of it, never will be until you change.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
So still nothing? ... except further proving my point.
I know it's unwittingly cause you're anxiousness to ever lowball clouds your judgement.
But yeah ninny, thanx anyway. laughing out loud

Damn, I figured all that time in the basement you'd come up with something, but ... nada again.

You

The Brothers got owned by LT and Spectre, deliberately warped into a merger, ha!
and had it not been for Access' help using shards found in Cap, Bats and himself,
the LT and Spectre would've inadvertently obliterated the Brothers in the separation.

Go pray my boy, you're not there yet, and from the looks of it, never will be until you change.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by abhilegend
Look at the Living Tribunal beating both brothers.

https://i.imgur.com/gGpFSWx.jpg

Doesn't that look magnificent.

/Mr Master

So what's happening there? I'm genuinely curious how LT didn't beat the brothers when they actually fought.


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