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Bump. Another battle . Could wick take out all the bourne's toughest enemies including the Pfroessor

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Not true. Bourne never showed feats of Wick's magnitude, so even if he gets John's worlds physics, he doesn't automatically get Wick levels of durability.


What makes you think Wick is on his level of durability? At the end of Ultimatum, Bourne got in multiple car crashes, got shot, fell off a 10 story building, and still was able to swim away. Wick has taken shots and been hit by cars, but he was far worse for the wear. Bourne is just far more elite trained, to the point that he really is less of a human and more of a killing machine with a supercomputer brain. His mind immediately determines the most efficient method to subdue someone in any situation and he does it. Wick is a trained martial artist and marksman, but Bourne was specifically trained to be THE ULTIMATE CQB specialist. He is absolutely faster, more durable, and more efficient in H2H, and has shown both pinpoint accuracy and lightning reflexes with firearms, to the point that he can ambidextrously shoot guns upside down and nail headshots while falling. Quite simply, Bourne is tougher and more importantly, smarter, so while Wick may be a challenge, Bourne should ultimately come out victorious.

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Good fight. Both these guys are excellent marksman and hand to hand combatants, and incredibly tough individuals overall. And both can do the assassin teleport trope (they even kind of poke fun at it during the final fight of JW3). As things stand, I'd probably back Wick because he seems made of rubber nowadays (the 2nd and 3rd movies together are virtually a continuous gauntlet, with a handful of timeouts in between), but I could be convinced otherwise by a compelling argument.


What H2H feats does Wick have? What h2h feats that matter anyway, as I don't recall Wick ever engaging into h2h with anyone that has the level of experience and skill Bourne has.

This is h2h. Wick's durability won't matter if Bourne hits him 30 times per minute in a 5 minutes fight.


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Hth might go with Bourne. With any kind of weapon Id go Wick. Killed a man with a pencil
Is it suddenly hard to kill someone with a pencil...?


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What H2H feats does Wick have? What h2h feats that matter anyway, as I don't recall Wick ever engaging into h2h with anyone that has the level of experience and skill Bourne has.

This is h2h. Wick's durability won't matter if Bourne hits him 30 times per minute in a 5 minutes fight.



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See what I mean? Those guys are beating the holy shit out of Jonathan. They also admire John and were clearly holding back.

If those guys had John on his ass, then Bourne will demolish him.


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What H2H feats does Wick have? What h2h feats that matter anyway, as I don't recall Wick ever engaging into h2h with anyone that has the level of experience and skill Bourne has.


That exact same argument applies to Bourne. No one he has fought has the actual onscreen feats that Wick does.

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This is h2h. Wick's durability won't matter if Bourne hits him 30 times per minute in a 5 minutes fight.


If you really believe that Bourne will land a clean blow every 2 seconds, 150 times in a row, without fault, then we might as well stop here. Because, IMO, you either vastly overrate Bourne or vastly underrate Wick.


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That exact same argument applies to Bourne. No one he has fought has the actual onscreen feats that Wick does.



If you really believe that Bourne will land a clean blow every 2 seconds, 150 times in a row, without fault, then we might as well stop here. Because, IMO, you either vastly overrate Bourne or vastly underrate Wick.


Have you watched the Bourne movies? Bourne has fought opponents in h2h that are way more impressive than the ones Wick has and come victorious.

Wick has had his ass handled in h2h by opponents of less skill than Bourne.

So I ask again, based on what does Wick win this?


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Hth might go with Bourne. With any kind of weapon Id go Wick. Killed a man with a pencil

Ignoring what Jason did with a pen, are we?

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Ignoring what Jason did with a pen, are we?


Jason also used a book as a weapon over a decade before John did:

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