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h1a8
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Mango has also walked through a sun shredder with no visible damage... Weapon powerful enuff to rip a star core apart. He's also no sold other high end energy attacks. I dont think hv is a definite winner.


Then why did the Sun kill him?


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I hear what your saying and I'm not saying Supes have not had a upgrade, but Mangog alone is a all of Asgard threat, hell he's a Odin level villian. Superman is not a skyfather. Superman is not even a Odin threat. Thor alone will give Supes a run a for his money, and Odin will destroy Superman with ease. Interms of strength, and durability Superman is not beating this dude. It would take the strongest version of Supes to beat Odin or Mango, and it still would be a toss up.


Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).


No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).

I can prove that your stance isn't sound.
Basically you are saying that there is no amount of strength Superman can have that would make him beat Mangog. That implies Mangog can withstand infinite force. If you disagree then you have to agree that there is a certain quantifiable strength that can put Mangog down.
If that's so, then how much strength do you think? Able to lift a planet? 10 planets? A thousand planets? A million? A billion? What amount?


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Then why did the Sun kill him?


Because writers don't give a shit about power scaling and logic on battleboards, same reason why a tractor ran over superman

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Then why did the Sun kill him?


Where is he shown dead?

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Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).


No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).


laughing out loud When DID Superman operate above Skyfather level before?
Name me the comic

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Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).


No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).


What strength feat has Superman performed that Mangog has attempted and failed?

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laughing out loud When DID Superman operate above Skyfather level before?
Name me the comic
Define skyfather level?


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I hear what your saying and I'm not saying Supes have not had a upgrade, but Mangog alone is a all of Asgard threat, hell he's a Odin level villian. Superman is not a skyfather. Superman is not even a Odin threat. Thor alone will give Supes a run a for his money, and Odin will destroy Superman with ease. Interms of strength, and durability Superman is not beating this dude. It would take the strongest version of Supes to beat Odin or Mango, and it still would be a toss up.



Jane kicks Mangogs tail, and she couldn't even handle that jobber Gladiator.


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Because writers don't give a shit about power scaling and logic on battleboards, same reason why a tractor ran over superman


What's wrong with a tractor running over something smaller?
I never seen the scene though. Please post it.


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Jane kicks Mangogs tail, and she couldn't even handle that jobber Gladiator.


She BFRs him.

Gladiator can't handle the same Destroyer Mangog years apart.

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She BFRs him.

Gladiator can't handle the same Destroyer Mangog years apart.



She injured him. There's no argument Superman >>>>> any standard Thor, he'd tear Mangog apart as easily as he'd rip Odinson and Jane in half.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).


No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).

I can prove that your stance isn't sound.
Basically you are saying that there is no amount of strength Superman can have that would make him beat Mangog. That implies Mangog can withstand infinite force. If you disagree then you have to agree that there is a certain quantifiable strength that can put Mangog down.
If that's so, then how much strength do you think? Able to lift a planet? 10 planets? A thousand planets? A million? A billion? What amount?
If where talking about standard vs standard Supes looses the majority. I said in order for Superman to stand a chance he would have to be at his strongest and even that would be debatable, fighting Mangog or Odin. Mangog strength is unlimited and fued by a billion billion souls of hatred, and Odin can magically enhanced his as well as speed. So once again Superman would have to be at his strongest level to at least stand a chance. Anything less he will loose almost all the time. What he relies on in most battles to win is his superiority. In this fight basic vs basic he's not the superior one.

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She injured him. There's no argument Superman >>>>> any standard Thor, he'd tear Mangog apart as easily as he'd rip Odinson and Jane in half.


You can't feat share that feat to Superman though, different writers have different interpretations on characters power levels

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You can't feat share that feat to Superman though, different writers have different interpretations on characters power levels


Why not? You feat share on Doomaday well enough ignoring his long list of trans and Skyfather level bodies because Superman killed him.


The Radiant, a Guardian, and Darkseid among them.


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She injured him. There's no argument Superman >>>>> any standard Thor, he'd tear Mangog apart as easily as he'd rip Odinson and Jane in half.


Mighto injures Supes much worse.

Mangog destroys Supes.

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Then why did the Sun kill him?

Comics.
Also Jane had to resort to a plot device chain to keep him from jumping out of the sun again.

If we only go by what ure saying then Supes can easily be ko'd by sonics. Or more recently one can say he cant beat Mongul.. Etc..


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I don't know what gang are you referring to tbh 🤔
who else always says that Superman is one of his favorite characters and then votes against him every time?
Galan should run an up check and see if this guy’s up matches that other guy that forgot his password and made a similar name after that scrub wrestler.

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Soooo the midgard serpent feat from Thor means nothing?

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