Yes in overall scheme of things, cheesy feats or collateral damage is not be all end all.. But for the type of feats shown, they are very similar. So comparatively speaking, one is more impressive than the other.
Distance ADDS to the calculated damage output.
If someone gets punched into space then you can't say it took less force to do that than what is supposed to.
However, Lack of distance doesn't imply lack of power.
I agree there.
That's why I ask for you to prove that it is harder to ko Sentry than to knock him in orbit. This would prove that BM hit Sentry harder than what it took to just hit him in orbit.
If you can't prove it then we have to assume that the exact force it takes to hit Sentry to space is the right amount of force needed to ko him.
You are asserting that Lobo's punch is less powerful, due to Sentry being KOd and Superman being OK.
But that relies on Sentry having better or equal durability to Superman, and writers taking this into account, when we know they don't even take simple physics into account. Not to mention, Sentry's powers depend on his mindset at the time - he got depowered by IM's invention, for example.
And we still can't use it against Sentry since he was rammed into a satellite after the punch and was sent a distance we are unsure of. The last panel we saw was him going through a satellite and if I remember correctly, he was still going.
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Superman may simply have a better chin than glass jaw sentry. But yeah overall distance is sort of like collateral damage. That doesn’t mean that when we’re comparing nearly identical feats it can’t be used as an indicator. Fact is the demon estrogen (lol love you autocorrect) and bm (estrogen and bm.... am I the only one who finds that funny??) are very close strength wise. I think the magic and durability puts the demon over the top here but it’s not a sweep. Slight majority to the demon. What are some of bm’s beat durability feats anyway?
The moon is like a thousand times further. It took only a few seconds for Superman to reach the moon. It took a similar amount of time for Sentry to reach the satellite.
Unless you want to argue that Sentry would have traveled a moon distance if it wasn't for the satellite?
He was shown floating in space - I have helpfully circled the debris floating in space with him, plus you can see his lovely blonde locks floating in space:
Then you can't assume he was sent a moon distance. Lack of evidence for something implies no proof for that something. So as it stands Superman was hit much further away than Sentry was.
Tbh, it took Sentry more than 3 seconds to reach the satellite. After going through the satellite Sentry travel another few seconds before returning.
So he traveled a much smaller distance after going through the satellite than the distance from Earth to the satellite. Just to be nice let's double the distance.
Thats actually a gud point. I was merely comparing the "math" b/n the two since you originally mentioned hitting people to space. What you just stated brings up a more complete viepoint of the feats.
What if someone says Supes is simply more durable? Thats a rabbit hole i didnt care to dive into. I just wanted to keep it simple.
The whole magic thing has me questioning whether or not Adam can win this. I believe that he's as strong, or possibly stronger than Etrigan, but strength and durability may not be the actual deciding factors here.
Not to get into the weeds of the scan but I thought the writer added Supes’ own flight speed, since he’s flying right at Etrigan. Baseball’s the most apt then, but it’s like hitting a super baseball that’s self-propelled on solar energy.
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@smurph—i could see that. IMO there’s degrees of difference between The feats is pretty small regardless. Strengths are close. It’s the magic and durability that push the demon over for me.
It just doesn’t look like he did stop Superman - Supes was flying at him horizontally, and Etrigan uppercuts him and he flies diagonally up/away. So Etrigan doesn’t overcome Supes’ momentum so much as add a ton of vertical force to Superman’s horizontal force.
Force and momentum are vector quantities. For Superman to be hit up and away (focus on the away) Etrigan had to cancel Superman's horizontal momentum (hence Superman was hit away). And yes, Etrigan added a shit ton of vertical momentum to Superman as well.
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