Honestly apart from that one hit that floored him (which I do find hard to argue against), I don't see much difference. I mean remember he is wielding Mjolnir here, which itself might hurt a bit more.
Hey that's a fair point, it would also explain him getting KO'd easily, and taking multiple punches to knock out those putties. Meaning he has to literally hold it to have Thor level strength.
Thor used lightning at multiple points without wielding either Mjolnir or Stormbreaker, most notably when he used that splits move to stop those two alien speeder craft things during the fight at the beginning and later to amp some of his melee attacks when he was fighting Zeus' soldiers. He didn't fire any lightning blasts without either weapon though, but then I think he only fired like two or three lightning blasts throughout the entire film, period. He seemed to prefer engaging in either CQC or throwing his weapon throughout most of the film.
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Yeah, it is all over the place at this point. To me, it seems more a case that someone who has mastery over the power of Thor i.e. Odin and current Thor, can imbue it into certain objects, either permanently or temporarily. Because Thor was able to temporarily give his powers to the children without anyone wielding either Mjolnir or Stormbreaker at the time.
Of course, this does not explain how Thor lost his powers in the first film, as he still should have had them even after they were also imbued into the hammer. Unless Odin put some kind of block on him that only broke once he became worthy of wielding Mjolnir again, but that's never established. Though, as I mentioned previously, he did use his lightning powers at multiple points in the film while not using either Mjolnir, Stormbreaker or Zeus' Thunderbolt.
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Yeah Taika hasnt forgotten he can wield lightning without Mjolnir or Stormbreaker (would be odd if he forgot tbf). Its the Russsos who didnt seem to know that.
Well, he did also channel lightning and manipulate the weather to a degree at the start of the final battle in Endgame before calling both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker to him. So, even there he wasn't dependent on either weapon to use those powers.
So, yeah, the writers can't seem to fully make up their mind. The best explanation I can think of is the one I mentioned in an earlier post but, as I said there, it doesn't explain Thor actually losing his powers in the first film.
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Nah, he did forget. I just rewatched the movie, Thor only has very short bursts of lightning without Mjolnir or Stormbreaker (or Zeus' bolt) and he never throws actual lightning bolts. More like just jolts of electricity which are after effects of his physical actions. Nowhere near the kind of lightning storms he could generate in Ragnarok.
There were multiple times where Gorr had taken away his weapons and tied him up where it would have been extremely useful for him to have used his lightning.
Taika seems to have very little care for consistency either with Thor's powers or his personality and character development.
Ive not rewatched it, I thought there was a scene where he powers up in lightning.
Strange given Taika made Ragnarok.
Russos defo acted like they didnt know. Thor seems completely powerless at the beginning of Infinity War, and only had that lightning small transformation in EndGame.
It isn't just Taika Waititi. It's a general problem the MCU has had in more recent times. A lot of PIS and power inconsistency throughout the various films and shows.
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Heck, in Ragnarok Korg was telling Thor about his mum and her boyfriend. In L&T he claimed to have two dads and implied that there were no female kroenans.
Taika doesn't really seem to care much about consistency within the MCU, even less than the Russos.
These are the times when I kinda miss someone like Whedon. The guy had his faults but he was at least a true comic fan instead of just a director hired to do a comicbook movie.
Yes he kept things consistent. Though had he continued, I believe he would have screwed up eventually if he had a character he was biased towards like Cap and Russos. Other than JL, Whedon is the guy who had Aquaman beat Namor by having a whale fall on him. He's could've atleast made it a giant squid or have Arthur just punch Namor out
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