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Vader & Dooku vs. Super Battle Droids (growing gauntlet)
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Zenwolf
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There were only 100 Jedi during the Arena battle, at least in Legends, not 200.

So more than half of that 100 force died, if we look at the scene just before the Clones come in.

Not sure about Canon, but probably the same.


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Yoda mused they could only summon a hundred Jedi tops so quickly, but we never get told how many de facto arrived.

Wiki keeps saying 212 or 215 max in a few articles (if we include Kenobi, Skywalker and... one mysterious guy?):

1. Canon:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jedi_assault_team

2. Legends:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Geonosis_strike_team

But, of course, that would need to get verified, since anyone can edit such fandom sites.


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The 200+ number is factoring in the Battle of Geonosis as a whole. Not all of them were fighting in the arena, however. Either way, like 90% of them were killed... No name Jedi are absolute fodder, tbh.


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Tbh I think Dooku dies before the 100 mark, though I guess if Vader is doing heavy lifting he might survive to that point.

But really this is just due to....lack of grand feats? Tbh apart from Vader and Sidious and....I guess Luke.

Has ANY Force User in SW Canon done anything huge without assistance and just by themselves with regards to enemy combatants?

Because I'm honestly drawing a blank here, granted I'm really just recalling from TCW where every Force User just seemed to be a hair above a Non-Force User at times..

So I dunno if any other comic or novel has Dooku pulling off something like Vader had done in Vader Down. I really doubt it, seeing as that isn't his style...

But it seems like there's this gigantic power gap in feats shown between characters.

Vader gets shown to be like this monster in Canon, yet I can't recall seeing anything like that for really any other character.
In canon it has been exceptionally rare for Force users to single-handedly fight droves of opponents by themselves and come out on top(without some plot-devicey antics.)

Vader, Luke, and Palpatine are about it.


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In canon it has been exceptionally rare for Force users to single-handedly fight droves of opponents by themselves and come out on top(without some plot-devicey antics.)

Vader, Luke, and Palpatine are about it.


What a shame and frankly I’m just more scaling Luke than by actual feats.

But yeah it’s kinda off, though I guess the excuse is due to their Force Potential but it’s still a little strange.

But yeah from what I’ve seen the Canon nameless Jedi are faaaar below their Legends nameless.


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I can think of plenty of examples for other notable Jedi performing large-scale combat feats. Off the top of my head, there was Yoda nearly wiping out an entire droid army single-handedly, with very minimal support from his clone squad in Ambush.

Then during the liberation of Ryloth, Mace Windu was depicted holding off multiple waves of battle droids while waiting for his clone support to reactivate the plasma bridge. He even wiped out an entire wave of droid reinforcements with a single Force push.

During the episode Defenders of Peace, Anakin wracked up a kill count of around 80 when he took out an entire droid squad single-handed (by my count, each squad had 48 B1s and 10 B2s), not to mention he also took out both AATs present, the Defoliator prototype, and helped whittle down the first three droid squads as well before launching into his solo attack against the fourth. All while still recovering from a debilitating injury.

The Blade of Bardotta, Porter Engle, also single-handedly brought down an entire Nihil strike team in the High Republic Annual comic. Even one or two Nihil could be a threat to most Jedi due to the drug-crazed, suicidal tactics they utilized in combat. So again, while not quite army-busting, beating a few dozen Nihil with absolutely zero back-up is nonetheless pretty impressive.

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Galan007
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I was moreso speaking to examples of Jedi/Sith army-busting without any sort of outside assistance or w/e... Similar to Vader's showing here:
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Because yeah, soloing a few dozen opponents is one thing. Soloing hundreds of opponents is another matter entirely.


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