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h1a8
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This first step is where you already fail.

You mean succeeded.
Remember the original claim was the feat can't be proven to take more than 50 tons of force.

Thanks that you agree.

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Proving a negative? No thanks, that's bad debating.

Prove that the ship is the weight you assume it is.

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Can anyone link the feat h1 won't shut up about?

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Can anyone link the feat h1 won't shut up about?

At 3:12 and 4:30 marks

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Proving a negative? No thanks, that's bad debating.

Prove that the ship is the weight you assume it is.

The ships weight can not be proven to 100% accuracy. Hence my claim.

But it can estimated, using reasonable assumptions (like scale to a jet fighter plane). The 15-20 ton estimate comes from similar sized (maybe slightly bigger) jet fighter planes that weighs 13-20 tons.
But this is faulty since the Wakandans are far more advanced than real humans and can possibly build ships even lighter (more efficient) than comparable human sized ones.

The problem is that IF the feat can't be calculated to ANY reasonable standard (a reasonable error percentage) then Namor doesn't have a feat to argue for.

We have to agree on the assumptions as a consensus or a vast majority.

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The ships weight can not be proven to 100% accuracy. Hence my claim.

But it can estimated, using reasonable assumptions (like scale to a jet fighter plane). The 15-20 ton estimate comes from similar sized (maybe slightly bigger) jet fighter planes that weighs 13-20 tons.
But this is faulty since the Wakandans are far more advanced than real humans and can possibly build ships even lighter (more efficient) than comparable human sized ones.

The problem is that IF the feat can't be calculated to ANY reasonable standard (a reasonable error percentage) then Namor doesn't have a feat to argue for.

We have to agree on the assumptions as a consensus or a vast majority.

I don't actually care if Namor has a feat or not - my point is that your assumptions are wrong/faulty in the first place.

So if it strikes Namor's feat out, then so be it.

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I don't actually care if Namor has a feat or not - my point is that your assumptions are wrong/faulty in the first place.

So if it strikes Namor's feat out, then so be it.

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Slinging the Wakanda ship can not be proven to be more than 50 tons of force.

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Why not?

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Yeah even if it was made out of pure vibranium and as such 1/3 the weight of mundane metal like steel he literally chucked it several hundred feet. It's easily above 50 tons or whatever dumb shit h1 was saying. Still not as good as Namek's locomotive toss but no one is really arguing against Namek being stronger.

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You answered the question already. You forgot? Want me to remind you?

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Yeah even if it was made out of pure vibranium and as such 1/3 the weight of mundane metal like steel he literally chucked it several hundred feet. It's easily above 50 tons or whatever dumb shit h1 was saying. Still not as good as Namek's locomotive toss but no one is really arguing against Namek being stronger.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt and overestimated it to the 300- 400 ton range. But DS shot me down. So it's back to a non feat.

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