who can beat the phionex in the marvel world

Started by GalacticStorm3 pages

Originally posted by yahman
"Yahman. Go and read the thread this came from. I just copied and pasted. It should be on pg 2. KG has actually made me sick of phoenix threads. I cant bear to type up another explanation. Have a gd read from top to bottom."

Sorry Dude where ?

Page 2. Sorry about earlier Yahman i dont mean to be rude at all. Its just that after debating heavily for the last few months with these guys i just really cant be bothered to explain stuff to people. Its my problem and i'll deal with it. Dont take it personally. Im a nice guy really. Plus im from the U.K as well. Thats gotta count for something right? 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Page 2. Sorry about earlier Yahman i dont mean to be rude at all. Its just that after debating heavily for the last few months with these guys i just really cant be bothered to explain stuff to people. Its my problem and i'll deal with it. Dont take it personally. Im a nice guy really. Plus im from the U.K as well. Thats gotta count for something right? 😄

You have been fighting the good fight Galactic and you are very good your cool.

"Page 2. Sorry about earlier Yahman i dont mean to be rude at all. Its just that after debating heavily for the last few months with these guys i just really cant be bothered to explain stuff to people. Its my problem and i'll deal with it. Dont take it personally. Im a nice guy really. Plus im from the U.K as well. Thats gotta count for something right? "

I've got your back Dude, cheers mate 😎

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
KG im not going to argue. The retcon changed merely Jeans connection with Phoenix. It didnt affect anything to do with Xmen forever. Name me an element you think it changed and i'll gladly and quite capably dismiss it. Xmen forevers ideas were incorporated into the retcon as ive told you before. It was left unaffected. Do you actually read posts KG? U should know this. Oh well. Gd try anyway.

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1980 – Reed says Phoenix power might rival that of Galactus (note this was before 1986 retcon , where Phoenix was a force rather than a entity)

1986 ----- Phoenix depowered

1989 – Phoenix force = no match for LT

1994 ---the M crystal (still multiversal)

2003----Phoenix change back to how it was before according to GS

2003 –Lt = Top dawg (by thanos with HOTU)

2005 - Phoenix force a powerful entity

Originally posted by kgkg
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1980 – Reed says Phoenix power might rival that of Galactus (note this was before 1986 retcon , where Phoenix was a force rather than a entity)

1986 ----- Phoenix depowered

1989 – Phoenix force = no match for LT

1994 ---the M crystal (still multiversal)

2003----Phoenix change back to how it was before according to GS

2003 –Lt = Top dawg (by thanos with HOTU)

2005 - Phoenix force a powerful entity

1980- If you actually read Xmen avidly you'd know that after saving the multiverse, with her phoenix work done Jean placed psychic circuit breakers on her power to limit it to appropriate levels for earth. Leaving her as just a powerful mutant with limits and energy requirements. Masterminds tamperings of Jeans mind lead to the psychic circuit breakers slow unravelling. After Jean defeated the Xmen after being corrupted she she flew into space hungry for sustenance admitting that in her present state her powers were limited. Jean said this as she had just left earth and it was at that moment that her power was sensed all across teh globe by Strange , Reed and Prof X. Reed then said at that point her power rivalled Galactus'. She went on to consume a star. The point is it is a fact that she had these self imposed limitations placed on her power, yet she was still at Galactus level when the breakers began to unravel and then she went on to consume a star. Dismissed.

1986- Phoenix becomes a seperate entity from Jean it isnt her evolved state. A retcon which is now abolished.

1989- No need to comment on a what if. Explained away by recent retcon. Just a shard of Jeans essence which was all Rachel had with her not being a true avatar.

1990's- Rachel calls on Phoenix and asks it to reveal its true form. It does. It appears to her as a golden Jean Grey. (See below)

1994- Phoenix only being capable of preventing the multiversal threat(so falls under Lt's jurisdiction but he doesnt have the juice) taht is the M'kraan crystal

2001- Phoenix is the ultimate potential that all humanity will evolve into. (First signs that the crappy 86 retcon was being discontinued) Phoenixes power shown to be enough to humble LT.(The only instance their power has been measured against each others and he's found wanting)

2003- Phoenix is Jean. Its her evolved state again. Through Phoenix Jean has telekinetic godhood. Power over all creation down to the molecular level.

In Endsong the rampant powerful entity which was made out to be "The phoenix force" gone mad was in fact a shard of Jean greys psychic essence which had been interrupted by the Shi'ar while it was enroute to the white hot room after her death in New Xmen, trying to join with the rest of her essence so that Jean could reform in the white hot room. It is confirmed that Jean is Phoenix and phoenix is jean.

Dealt with.

One day they'll retcon it all and then I'll laugh so hard that I'll die. Thanks a lot. Jerks.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
One day they'll retcon it all and then I'll laugh so hard that I'll die. Thanks a lot. Jerks.
Hopefully sooner rather than later...don't know how much more obnoxious X-ramblings I can take. 👇

BTW, GS...you have mentioned before that the PF was responsible for saving Galen and transforming him into Galactus, (even when it was clearly shown that Eternity was the one who did it), and I've asked you a couple of times to provide the source for this. You've said X-Men Adventures 12 (or something)...but what year was that done?

X-men adventures? The kids series? That's out of continuity.