I think you are clearly the ignorant one here. If you actually knew anything about him, you'd know that he never presents it as his own work. He always gives credit where credit is due. You really don't know what you're talking about
Yep, I got the whole I.Q. bit, which I couldn't care less about. It's his movies I have a problem with.
Us so called "detractors", meaning people who aren't too deep in denial to prove that he plagiarizes, will indeed say that Tarantino is unoriginal and simply steals his work, because he does.
Why does he?
I read the quotes, what was I supposed to find in them? Some "cool" dialogue? That's not hard to decipher. You forget to mention any of the sexually demeaning dialogue that people go gah gah for.
You're clearly confused.
I said if someone is to go as far as saying Q.T. is a genius because of his dialogue, then I must be the Stephen Hawking (a real genius, whom which I used merely as an instance) of KMC, given my typical witty lexicon.
I like Tarintino for a few reasons, originality is none of them.
1. His dialogue is extremely well done. He is arguably the best dialogue writer in teh business. He has an uncanny ability to take seemingly generic types of conversations and throw them in his films, which adds a realism that very few other films posess. It makes his characters that much more believable. However, he also makes these conversations mean something, and help define the character who is saying them.
2. Also, he is a master story teller. His films flow extremely well, and considering the non-linear way he usually tells his stories, that's saying a lot. It takes great skill to make a film that jumps around and still flows and makes sense. He's one of the few people who does this.
3. His characters are great. He often has some of the most interesting and 3 demensional characters around. You can tell that the man actually cares about the characters he's creating, giving them a unique and realistic personality that's easy to differentiate between other characters.
I think as a director he's solid. But I think it's writing that he's most skilled at. Because both of these aspects I mentioned above are directly connected to his scripts rather then his directing abilities.
I think his overwhelming skill in all of these departments more then makes up for the fact that he lifts most of his premises from earlier films.
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Tarantino has so much control in his direction. He plays with the audience. The Gimp, the adrenaline shot, Mr. Blonde's torture scene, Nurse Buck, and the rock salt blast are just a few examples of his uniqueness and unpredictability as a writer and director. He loves the small scenes, too: when Mr. Orange (going undercover) is about to walk out the door to meet the criminals, he fishes a ring (was he married? divorced? or did his wife die?) out of some change; Vincent talks to himself in front of the mirror, trying to reason his way out of Mia Wallace's home without getting himself in trouble; after killing someone, Bruce Willis gets in his car and starts singing with the radio! These minimalistic scenes harken back to Sergio Leone; like Tarantino, Leone made huge movies, but they always had these little scenes that stuck in your mind forever (my favorite was in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly when Eastwood gives a dying soldier in the Civil War a drag off his cigar). Tarantino pays homage incessantly, but his movies drip originality. Plus, film has changed in the past decade due to Quentin's style. Films like The Usual Suspects, The Boondock Saints, and many others pay dues to Tarantino. These are the reasons I find Tarantino the most important director in the last decade.
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i agree mostly with what BackFire said.
But simply put, QT is the genius filmmaker because he has that aura of fearlessness around him when he makes movies. He just does not seem to care about critics, as long as his films 'catch' attention.
Quentin Tarentino? Ugh!!!! the Kill Bill movies suckssssssss.... and that Hero movie sucks more... and all his movies sucks.. He has no originality. (just my own, honest opinion)
So you're saying The Gimp, cutting a guy's ear off, a nurse letting people screw a woman in comatose, and gangsters discussing divine intervention is unoriginal? I'm a writer, and I wish I could come up with material half that ingenuitive.
yeah I kinda knew that QT didn't really do the movie Hero. But all the same to me.. lol.. and about the originality thing, I wasn't talking about Kill Bill being not original. I just meant that the story is very typical and not to mention boring (I've seen same plot in some Chinese, Thai and other Asian movies.) Anyways you're free to love or like QT's movies. But IMO anyways, I really think Kill Bill sucks (and is overrated) So yeah.
The rape scene in "Pulp Fiction" wasn't glorified, nor was the attempted rape in "Kill Bill Vol. 1". In fact, the rapists in each (Maynard & Zed in PF, Buck and the trucker in KB1) were portrayed as the most despicable of characters.
Likewise, Alex in "A Clockwork Orange" (if that's the Kubrick you're referring to), as rapist/murderer/overall scumbag wasn't glorified so much as he was examined. When he was bad at the beginning, he was reviled; when he was tortured/reformed/beaten in the middle, he was pitiful; and when he was turning back to his evil ways at the end, we were left feeling contempt for the system that wanted to manipulate his situation AND for him, as he didn't seem to mind one bit (just so long as he was allowed to return to business as usual).
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Tell me a movie where Lucy Liu and Vivika A. Foxx are both assasins that Uma Thurman is hunting down because they (and not to mention the rest of the Deadly Viper Assasination squad) tried to murder Uma at her Wedding Day.
Question is, did "The Bride" need anymore motivation to kill than a failed murder attempt? Was rape necessary? Or was it thrown in to keep up with Q.T.'s track record of perverse dialogue and visuals?
Just throw together "The Bride Wore Black" & "Lady Snowblood"? Revenge is a very tired premise.
I'm not a fan of rape, but I know a shocking scene when I see it.
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