That is ridculous for God to give Clark the sword, but he does have it.
Which it wouldn't do him too much good considering the sword's powers have a limit and juggernaut is fully powered by cytorrakk.
His invulnerablity has no limit. I really don't think the "Prime, I'm gonna blink juggernaut out of existence thing" will work cause juggernaut is fully powered by cytorrak and so the power that cytorrak has placed in juggernaut would have to be "blinked out of existence too".
Cytorrak is a f#@kin' god(one of the most powerful)and Cain is the avator of that god.So, I really don't think that will happen.
Plus, juggernat can break through dimensions so the whole put him in another dimension thing won't work.
Any amount of physical or blasting force Prime uses will do nothing to a fully powered 8th day juggernaut.Plus, Juggernaut can survive anything, anywhere, any-mother-f@#kin-how he wants. And Prime's last resort would be to get his helmet off and hit him with an unmeasurable amount of teleblasts in his brain to kill him. I doubt Cain is gonna stand around and let him do this. 8th day is also, way stronger and more powerful than regular juggs so he is gonna put up a hell of a fight to stay alive and Prime is just gonna get his a## handed to him on the golden platter they oh so love to put him on.
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Damn. It sure proves that Prime had the Sword of Heaven.
Post scans or find me proof that "PRIME" had that sword - not regular Superman.
YOU HAVE NOTHING.
Oh please. If he was so damn powerful, why'd he need the GL ring to defeat Solaris? And if his descedants were so strong, why'd they get owned by a living sun?
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I'm guessing the DC writers thought it wouldn't be as dramatic if Super Prime just simply erased Solaris. Would u find it interesting if LT just erased the bad guys when it got too hard for the heroes?.
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???So are you saying Prime = LT or Prime = IG? How can Prime erase anybody? Nobody here's proven that Prime has the Sword of Heaven.
They've given links to regular Superman with the Sword, but nothing more. If Prime does have it, show scans or give an exact link that references Prime having the Sword.
As it stands, Prime can't erase Solaris. He needed the GL ring.
The reason Superman Dynasty had a problem with Solaris was because of the RED SUN. The Dynasty was still not immune to it... Superman was able to go and cut into the red sun and change it back to the Super Sun.
If you actually read the book, they didnt have as much of a fightfighting Solaris as they did trying to find a cure for all of the people affected in the 21st century by the virus it let out.
If I am not mistaken smart one, I already posted a link showing the Sword, its origins, and al of that stuff.
Besides like Juggernaut could fight a sun? Are you kidding me? Didnt Superman fight Solaris before he went into the Sun and emerged as Prime?
Then Solaris was created back in the 21st century when the 2 JLAs switched places... They beat him. Maybe you should read the One Million series before you post... you wouldnt look so stupid. Just a suggestion
Personal insults really take a lot away from the tenacity of your posts. Just a tip.
You never proved that prime has the sword, and you never proved what the sword can do. All I see on that site is "it's formed from primordial matter." Big shit. So is everything else in the universe.
8th Day Juggernaut with the total power of Cyttorak could certainly have destroyed Solaris. If you think otherwise, you don't know Cyttorak.
Solaris' plan was to use Krytonite to kill Prime while Prime was still sleeping in the Super Sun. However, it wasn't Kryptonite that was thrown into the Super Sun, it was a GL ring. Prime emerges from the Super Sun and uses it to beat Solaris.
Again, Prime w/ GL ring beat Solaris. What Sword are you crapping about? Prime never had the Sword of Superman.
Ok well Cyttorak gave and powered the Crimson Bands to Dr. Strange and the Hulk broke those, which they were said to be super powerful and indestructible.
Explain how the Hulk can break something of Cyttoraks but Superman Prime who is ridiculously stronger than the Hulk would not be able to stop the Juggernaut.
Cyttorak didn't give anything. Any sorcerror with sufficient knowledge can access a tiny fraction of the powers of mystical beings like Cyttorak, Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur, Watomb, Raggador, Dormammu, etc. And that's just a puny fraction of their powers.
When Strange finally met Cyttorak, Cyttorak didn't even know who Strange was. Stephen had to point out that he was using Cyttorak's Bands. Cyttorak didn't even notice that Strange was using his powers.
As for Hulk, Strange was tired, he was unconcentrated to his task. The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak have held back the Mindless Ones. Any of one of them would give Hulk a good beat down.
The Crimson Gem of Cyttorak is how Cyttorak spread his fame. That there was power Cyttorak allowed for a mortal to have. Strange can't access Juggernaut's power. And Cyttorak isn't limited to durability and strength considering Juggernaut is only given a fraction of Cyttorak's power. Juggy doesn't have access to the Crimson Band of Cyttorak.
Cyttorak rules the Crimson Cosmos. Juggy and Strange can in no way represent the full might of Cyttorak.
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Ok regardless on how much Cytorrak power the Crimson Bands had... they had Cytorrak power... Hulk is nowhere near as strong as Superman Prime and he broke them... even Maestro Hulk is nowhere near as strong as Superman Prime and he is twice as strong as the Hulk.
Juggernaut did not have all the power of Cytorrak... werent there like 8 beings of Cytorrak?
Whoever said that Juggernaut powered by Cytorrak is more powerful than the Sword of Heaven (who was made by God... not a god but THE God) is retarded... So do you think Odin is more powerful than the Presence also?
And to address how everyone is saying that Prime is only powered by one sun... Phoenix only had to absorb one sun and she was fully powered. But yea she was weak...
Superman Prime wins this. Lets see what Superman Prime has to offer Juggy.
Superman Prime...current post-crisis Superman 83,000 years from now. Leaves earth at the end of the 21st century and does not return for 67,000 years. Once he arrives back to earth he makes a covenant with the current superman his heir. Prime tells his heir that I'll be a catalyst and amp up your powers even more, only if you are good (or something to that extent).
Superman Prime then goes into the sun and hybernates for 16,000 years absorbing the yellow sun and granting the other "Supermen" even more power. These other Supermen can
Punch through the time barrier
Exceed the speed of light,
uber levels of strength, etc
Superman Prime is said to be even more powerful than this. Essentially Superman Prime is a new god. He's absorbed so much solar energy that he is no longer reconizble as a kryptonian (genetically). Superman Prime is also in possesion of the last of the Green Lantern Power Rings.
trion juggernaut was considered the physically strongest being in the universe. xavier himself even said this. trion juggs was like normal juggs but possessed by cyttorak and had like cyttorak's power x100 cuz in the real world as compared to the crimson cosmos cyttorak was so much stronger. 8th day juggernaut is just normal cain marko juggernaut with his power as like 75% of cyttorak's because he learned how to use it better.
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Apr 4th, 2005 03:44 PM
Solaris' plan was to use Krytonite to kill Prime while Prime was still sleeping in the Super Sun. However, it wasn't Kryptonite that was thrown into the Super Sun, it was a GL ring. Prime emerges from the Super Sun and uses it to beat Solaris. 
