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REVELATION: Darth Maul was Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas
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oddjob02
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"so what you're saying was that maul was on the council and disguised himself as a jedi leader. no, not possible, the jedi arent that stupid."

...by your argument; Lucas was saying that Palpatine was a senator from Naboo for a good long while and friends with many jedi on the council and moved his way up politically in the movies over a 13 year span, but in reallity he was a dark superpowerful Sith lord who was ages old and been plotting to rid the galaxy of Jedis and take over the Republic as a heartless Sith dictator? the jedi aren't that stupid!

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DeadStar
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Balcomus Prime
Could Sifo Dias have been Qui Gon? He died. He didn't disappear like a normal Jedi so he might have been a "spy". He also was a major supporter of Anakin.


Qui gon is evil hes a part of sidious's plan to capture anakin, also no... i wont bother... "i have a bad feeling about this" "i dont sense anything"
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think about it =p

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hazkid
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not all zabraks are tattoed, Saesee Tiin (or maybe agen kolar) is a zabrak.


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bILLYgOAT
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DNA is the answer.
The jedi would have investigated the corpse of Maul and extracted DNA to identify him ( after all clones are possible, so DNA extraction is a precursor to it)

Also If Sifo was originally in the JO and suddenly left, then its a llogical ine of investigation for the JO to see if they are indeed one of the same person.



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crAZRick
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it's obvious to me...

s Y f f O D i A s

if you take this spelling, and rearrange the letters it reads:

syffo dias: is yoda ffs

it's Yoda for frik sake... duh! people!!


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hunchy
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how about we stop all these pointless rumor threads and actually realize that sifo-dyas was sifo-dyas. It explains it in many books...

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Darth Maverick
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yeh it even says it in the scrap book of Ep3 that Dooku killed Sifo-dyas 10 years prior to Ep3


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hunchy
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exactly

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Stun
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Re: REVELATION: Darth Maul was Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas

quote: (post)
Originally posted by woman_beater69
Let's forget about the expanded universe for a minute...
Focusing on the movies...


In The Phantom Menace (the movie!) we know very little about Darth Maul. He's Sidious' apprentice. That's it. He is a mystery.

Now In Episode II we learn A jedi Master named Sifo Dyas ordered the clone army. Sifo Dyas died ten years before Attack Of the Clones so he died during the events of The Phantom Menace.

Now...
Skip to Episode III. As revealed in the REVENGE OF THE SITH novel (go to MF.com's forums for that), Palps tells Anakin that his old apprentice was Jedi Master Sifo Dyas, the one to order the Clone Army. Sifo Dyas died during The Phantom Menace. He died before Count Dooku joined up with Sidious. He died when Maul died.

So...

Remembering what Yoda said about "Only two there are" doesn't it make sense that Darth Maul is a fallen Jedi?

Maul is Sifo-Dyas.


well thought out, but

1. Darth Maul has been trained by the Sith since he was 12. He has never been trained in the Jedi arts.

2. He would of been on the Council. You would think Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would reconise him. Plus i think he would of been too young to become a master whether he had Jedi training or not


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by hunchy
how about we stop all these pointless rumor threads and actually realize that sifo-dyas was sifo-dyas. It explains it in many books...


i agree 100%. Theres no big twist at all. He's not Grievous, Dooku, Maul, etc. Sifo-Dyas is Sifo-Dyas


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ctsketch
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enough with the Sifo Dyas threads the visual dictionary already reveleaded who he was. A Jedi master who believed in Dooku and nothing more


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hunchy
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I applaude you.

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would be cool, but he's not


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hunchy
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who are you referring to?

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Eleonora
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Ok I don't want to start a war but I have to say this. Please the next time you have to post massive spoilers don't "declare" them in the bloody title of the thread. I come here for pics, videos and the countdown thread not for text spoilers, which to me are more devastating than pics, and frankly I was pissed off.
For example, the "MF.com spoilers" is a cleverly thought thread title, because people can see that it contains spoilers, yet it does not reveal anything unless you click on it. I really did not want to know this so next time you have to post this stuff please do it in "incognito" or that sort of thing and think that not everyone may appreciate you bursting out.


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crAZRick
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darth Maverick
yeh it even says it in the scrap book of Ep3 that Dooku killed Sifo-dyas 10 years prior to Ep3


maybe it meant that Dooku and YODA had a grand battle 10 years before Ep3, and that Dooku handed Yoda his wrinkly green a$$ during the battle, and at the time, Yoda was incognito as Siffo Dias...

then, after Yoda got whooped on by Dooku, having already placed the secret order for the cloners to create the army of the Republic, Yoda decided then and there to never be Siffo Dias again...

and the rumor became legend, that Dooku killed Siffo Dias on that day.

siffo dias: is yoda ffs!!

sorta like the 'Darth Vader... betrayed and murdered your (Luke's)father..' thing except in this case, Siffo Dias/Yoda was betrayed and 'murdered' by Dooku. They weren't really actually murdered, killed dead, they just ceased to exist on a specific day due to specific circumstances...


see, if Yoda was responsible for commissioning the Clone Army of the Republic, then when the clones turn against the Jedi and become the Imperial Storm Troopers, Yoda would have one more reason to go into seclusion on Dagobah and to never be heard from again... until Episode V that is...


siffo dias: is yoda ffs!

it's an anagram!! and, as we all know, George Lucas based the original trilogy on Kurosawa films and all those grand sweeping epics, but what you maybe didn't know is that he based the prequel trilogy almost exclusively upon the Hannibal Lecter trilogy; GL is a fan of the anagrams used by Hannibal, so it makes sense that he would use this word-play to cleverly disguise the identity of the mysterious Siffo Dias...

I wouldn't be surprised at all if, during ROTS, Dooku is seen eating Mace Windu's liver with some fava beans and a nice chiante... look for it!


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hunchy
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Eleonora, i would agree except that the person who created this thread is dead wrong. So don't worry. Nothing is spoiled, even though no mention of Sifo-Dyas is even in Episode 3 at all....

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Julie
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interesting theory but I don't think so....


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hunchy
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yeah but enough theories when there are facts out there stating sifo dyas was in fact himself. this is also true, because he is never mentioned in episode 3.

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LinixCobra
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"quote: (post)
Originally posted by Balcomus Prime
Could Sifo Dias have been Qui Gon? He died. He didn't disappear like a normal Jedi so he might have been a "spy". He also was a major supporter of Anakin.



Qui gon is evil hes a part of sidious's plan to capture anakin, also no... i wont bother... "i have a bad feeling about this" "i dont sense anything"
"its something else wear..." "...Keep your concentration here and now"

think about it =p"

I remember in The Phantom Menace Obi-Wan mentioned to Qui-Gon that he would be on the council if he followed orders

Im starting to believe that Qui-Gon is Syfodias


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