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Originally posted by mephistodesigns
WOW.

"...it's TOTALLY WRONG to have media coverage of stuff like this as in-depth as it is. It completely undermines the national security of the country".

Thank you, I could not have had my point about people being brain washed by governments/empires more beautifully illustrated.

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Originally posted by phinney6
Its funny when you call us mislead when the majority of liberal accusations are based on conspiracy theories without real facts, and close-minded opinions that believe every anti-bush article from every opinioned newspaper with liberal journalists. Also the NBC, CBS, ABC, left-wing news which will post whats happening but also post the negative things that bush does to people and the "hard time" we are haivng over in iraq when the majority of Iraq is peaceful (talk to the actual troops over there). The media likes to get the people stirred up and ususally against Bush. You say they aren't hard on him enough, Its not the medias job to be hard on a President. Its to report the FACTS only. But they usually have these analysts who try to find what bad the Bush things are doing. They also usually give what the President does without saying what he's doing it for, without saying why he's doing it, it looks bad on him and against does towarsds anti-bushism

www.mediaresearch.org

this website will actually report how the cbs, nbc, abc media reports, or should I say DOESN'T report why Bush does the things he does. There is a logical reason

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Originally posted by mephistodesigns
You mean like the great clip that woman beater posted? Yeah, jumping on the "liberal media" sure doesn't sound like a popular band wagon. I'm not basing my theories on liberal media or any media, i'm basing it on my OWN THOUGHTS!!! Wow, what a concept, thinking for yourself....holy crap! how do I do that you ask? I read all the articles, books, watch all channels news reports, and then make up my own mined based on what I believe about what I've read and heard and seen. Try it some time.

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Originally posted by phinney6
I cannot blame Bush for the WMD, everybody and their mother was telling him they were there. I would have done the same thing. Heck even if their weren't WMD, I would have done the same thing. Saddamn was uncooperative, and we know how good Appeasment worked with Hitler

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Originally posted by mephistodesigns
That's fine, if he'd even said "i'm not sure, but hey, they also rape and oppress women and have public execution, so while we're putting and end to that, we're gonna dig around for some weapons JUST IN CASE" and I'd be fine. I don't want them handing out troop locations or talking about specific missions, stop repeating everything FOX news tells you without thinking. DUH that's a stupid thing to do, and putting soldiers lives at risk isn't right. But I just want some honesty about WHY we're attacking someone. But if he'd said that, people wouldn't think it was "tough" enough and would call him a wuss, instead of an intelligent human being who thinks before he acts, and is honest about why he does what he does. That I respect.

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Originally posted by Lazerlike42
Surf on over to www.debka.com. It is an Israeli (independant) news site that has informants just about everywhere. I am not exageratting when I say that if Osama bin Laden eats a hot dog, they know about it. They have reported on SO many things 100% accurately days or weeks before we see it on CNN, Fox, CBS, etc.

They reported a few weeks before the invasion of Iraq that Saddam was moving all the WMDs to a desert in Syria. They had a map up for the longest time pointing out the weapon's exact location.

And in response to the inevitable question of why Bush hasn't gone after the weapons if that's true, they have also reported several times that Bush and high ranking US officials have been advised to do so but are worried because they already went into one country and didn't find what the intelligence said, so they are warry to go into another country and find faulty intelligence again. (The irony is that according to the Syrian desert report the intelligence was not faulty in the first place!)

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Originally posted by phinney6
What books? (unfit for command?)

What movies? (fahrenheit 9/11?)

What channel? (cbs?)

hmm........seriously you were being mean first, so no need for acting this way. Chill out. Tell me, please, why you are against bush? Just so I can get an understanding on where YOU stand.

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Originally posted by phinney6
Didn't he actually in many speeches mention how one of the main causes was the oppression of the Iraq people. There you go again, ANOTHER conspiracy theory that he lied, in reality many people believed Iraq had WMD including the CIA, and the British intelligence. I guess the Pres isn't supposed to listen to his intelligence corps? I mean after all that's just wrong to go to war because you believe they have WMD when they shouldn't. Man what an idiot that President Bush Was! Trying to protect America. To me, Liberals are dreamers. They want it all to be peaceful and okay, without realizing that war is gritty. Its tough. That in the long run its the right thing to do.

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Originally posted by Lazerlike42
In fact (and you may have missed it because most news sources buried it on the back page or at the tail end of the telecast) but it was reported a few months ago that RUSSIAN intelligence (Russia, as you know, being a relatively strong ally of Iraq and thus lending credence to it's accuracy) actually reported that not only did Iraq posses WMDs, but planned on USING THEM AGAINST MAINLAND US within a certain time frame (I think it was that summer or something like that).

How can one ignore that? As the President, if someone comes with evidence of 50% certainty that says the US is in danger, he HAS to act. Anything less would honestly be treason or something along those lines.