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Grimm22
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Cap takes the win here wink

Cap 7-8/10


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* i think i tend to vouch on DD for the win... wink

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* and i think Wolverine won't do any better... stick out tongue

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Originally posted by jinzin
cap will take the majority here.. while daredevil MAY have his radar sense cap is still so superior to him in endurance it's not even funny...

and to be quite frank if cap doesn't have a problem hitting spiderman (which he doesn't) hitting daredevil is going to be a trifle... which it HAS been...

The thing is, Daredevil has been able to not only tag Spider-Man, but also dodge and roll with his punches. Using that logic, he should be able to avoid Cap's punches much easier.
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the other time they foguht dd was in a full nelson in 3 panels... so no.. he's not one bad motha.. sorry.

Considering he's been able to do hold his own against Wolverine every time they met, as well as Spider-Man and Captain America, I have to disagree.

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The thing is, Daredevil has been able to not only tag Spider-Man, but also dodge and roll with his punches. Using that logic, he should be able to avoid Cap's punches much easier.

Cap has done the same to Spider-Man and was more impressive doing it.

Daredevil is good but Cap is better than him at just about everything.

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Originally posted by Accel
The thing is, Daredevil has been able to not only tag Spider-Man, but also dodge and roll with his punches. Using that logic, he should be able to avoid Cap's punches much easier.
spiderman's a meat and potatoes fighter.. by all rights he probably telegraphs every hit.
this is most likely the reason he has SERIOUS issues when stacked up against superior skilled foes without superpowers of any sort...
The REAL thing is, because of spiderman's spider sense daredevil is only able to really consistently punch spiderman through plot devices (for lack of a better term) daredevil can tag and avoid spidey all day when spiderman's too angry to think straight, brainwashed, or sprayed by a special spider-sense killing spray.. sure.. but there are very few times AT ALL where he's been able to land punches on spiderman while avoiding being creamed without help of SOME SORT. Infact there's a moment in amazing spiderman 396 where dd attacks a level headed spidey without any of his usual handicaps (no pun intended) and spiderman makes him look downright foolish.... And before that, in issue 287 spiderman goes at daredevil in a straight up h2h fight and nearly kills him. Daredevil wasn't easily avoiding anything there.. confused

also.. another problem is the fact that spiderman's spider sense is better than dd's radar sense (well arguably at least)..YET spiderman's spider sense is tricked out by captain america's fluid movements... which is most likely another reason for why spiderman has trouble connecting with gifted fighters... he's yet to master the art of fluidity... he goes from hit to hit but no in one fluid move like cap does... you just can't compare the two in h2h combat.. especially when spiderman's claimed on several occasions that his SS isonly an equilizer for the pure skill of guys like iron fist, the cap, and steel dragon.

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Considering he's been able to do hold his own against Wolverine every time they met, as well as Spider-Man and Captain America, I have to disagree.
he's been able to hold his own against cap once when cap didn't know what he was up against.. after that? no.. cap has pummbled him...

spiderman=plot device

wolverine= plot device.. or worse... garth ennis...

and no he hasn't been able to hold his own every time they've all met...

again spiderman has humiliated him with ease, wolverine did it in 3 panels, cap has done it in 1 when he stopped holding back...


but I digress.. it was wrong of me to say that dd isn't a bad motha.. he is to be sure.. he's just not on par with guys like cap, wolvie, and spidey.


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In born again, DD basically talks about how impressed he is with Caps speed and abilities. I think that Cap will take the majority here, but they won't be a curbstomp. Maybe cap 6/10 or 7/10.


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Originally posted by jinzin
spiderman's a meat and potatoes fighter.. by all rights he probably telegraphs every hit.
this is most likely the reason he has SERIOUS issues when stacked up against superior skilled foes without superpowers of any sort...
The REAL thing is, because of spiderman's spider sense daredevil is only able to really consistently punch spiderman through plot devices (for lack of a better term) daredevil can tag and avoid spidey all day when spiderman's too angry to think straight, brainwashed, or sprayed by a special spider-sense killing spray.. sure.. but there are very few times AT ALL where he's been able to land punches on spiderman while avoiding being creamed without help of SOME SORT. Infact there's a moment in amazing spiderman 396 where dd attacks a level headed spidey without any of his usual handicaps (no pun intended) and spiderman makes him look downright foolish.... And before that, in issue 287 spiderman goes at daredevil in a straight up h2h fight and nearly kills him. Daredevil wasn't easily avoiding anything there.. confused

also.. another problem is the fact that spiderman's spider sense is better than dd's radar sense (well arguably at least)..YET spiderman's spider sense is tricked out by captain america's fluid movements... which is most likely another reason for why spiderman has trouble connecting with gifted fighters... he's yet to master the art of fluidity... he goes from hit to hit but no in one fluid move like cap does... you just can't compare the two in h2h combat.. especially when spiderman's claimed on several occasions that his SS isonly an equilizer for the pure skill of guys like iron fist, the cap, and steel dragon.

he's been able to hold his own against cap once when cap didn't know what he was up against.. after that? no.. cap has pummbled him...

spiderman=plot device

wolverine= plot device.. or worse... garth ennis...

and no he hasn't been able to hold his own every time they've all met...

again spiderman has humiliated him with ease, wolverine did it in 3 panels, cap has done it in 1 when he stopped holding back...


but I digress.. it was wrong of me to say that dd isn't a bad motha.. he is to be sure.. he's just not on par with guys like cap, wolvie, and spidey.


Good Post* i agree, I have gained an incredible ammount of respect for DD as of late (mostly due to New Avengers), however

Ide have to give Cap 7/10 on this one.

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Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
In born again, DD basically talks about how impressed he is with Caps speed and abilities. I think that Cap will take the majority here, but they won't be a curbstomp. Maybe cap 6/10 or 7/10.
yup I definitely don't think it would be a curbstomp.. I mean if daredevil focuses just on his defensive game he could end up being one slippery sumumabitch to get ahold of.. but again.. cap's durability would win out in the end...
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Good Post* i agree, I have gained an incredible ammount of respect for DD as of late (mostly due to New Avengers), however

Ide have to give Cap 7/10 on this one.

thank you wink

yeah i like dd a lot too.. I mean the guy is crazy skilled but cap is taking this for surez.


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K, Looking it over I'd give Cap a 6/10 win. This is only cause of his endurance though, since this would be a tough fight and would probably last a while.


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That Spiderman thing is merely a low showing for Spiderman, there's no reason that he can't clobber these guys without too much trouble (in this forum), DD admitted this himself that he only keeps up because of the senses. Wolverine lasts because of healing.


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That Spiderman thing is merely a low showing for Spiderman, there's no reason that he can't clobber these guys without too much trouble (in this forum), DD admitted this himself that he only keeps up because of the senses. Wolverine lasts because of healing.


Exactly. And even with DD's senses he still gets schooled a lot of time


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And that was when he was hypnotized.


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Hey man are you looking for a fight? mad


Well that seemed a bit unnecessary. I'm not trying to make this personal.

But in all honesty, Daredevil should win this fight. He's far more agile (Not taking ANYTHING away from Cap here) as well as probably a bit faster.

Plus, ya know, that whole radar-sense thing going on for DD. He'll be able to easily anticipate his moves, avoid them, or counter them to his liking.

So. Like I said. DD should win.

Will he win in the comics? Hell no.


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Well that seemed a bit unnecessary. I'm not trying to make this personal.

But in all honesty, Daredevil should win this fight. He's far more agile (Not taking ANYTHING away from Cap here) as well as probably a bit faster.

Plus, ya know, that whole radar-sense thing going on for DD. He'll be able to easily anticipate his moves, avoid them, or counter them to his liking.

So. Like I said. DD should win.

Will he win in the comics? Hell no.


LOL im only joking. Im pissed but obvously not that pissed. By the way Cap's SSS serum screws up DD's radar sense.

P.S. You think thats uneccesary did you hear what King Kam said about the Storm vs Batman, Robin and Nightwing thread. I hope he's black.

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LOL im only joking. Im pissed but obvously not that pissed. By the way Cap's SSS serum screws up DD's radar sense.

P.S. You think thats uneccesary did you hear what King Kam said about the Storm vs Batman, Robin and Nightwing thread. I hope he's black.


The thing with the SSS is debatable. It was only mentioned once and then apparently forgotten in all the other encounters (at least the ones I've seen)


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The thing with the SSS is debatable. It was only mentioned once and then apparently forgotten in all the other encounters (at least the ones I've seen)


Oi look....did Cap have the SSS in the other encounters? Yes he did so we can assume that it had the same affect.

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Oi look....did Cap have the SSS in the other encounters? Yes he did so we can assume that it had the same affect.


Well how come in the other encounters Daredevil is able anticipate his moves by hearing him tense up etc when thats what the SSS is supposed to prevent?


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Well how come in the other encounters Daredevil is able anticipate his moves by hearing him tense up etc when thats what the SSS is supposed to prevent?


Ok fine. Like I said to you before just because he knows what hes going to do does not mean hes going to be able to stop his punches and kicks it will help but that alone wont be enough.

Wolverine stated the cap is one of the greatest fighters in the world did not mention Matt and we have just proved that the fights that Wolverine had with DD and Elecktra were not fair.

Cap is stronger not by a great deal but still stronger
Cap has more stamina probably quite a bit more
Cap is more durable not by a great deal but still has more durability
Cap has more experience and even if you dont think he can beat Spidey he can fool his spider sense so why cant he work against DDs sense
They both indestructible weapons
DD is slightly more agile.

but DD wins because of his radar sense........ confused

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Furthermore DD may know that Cap's going to punch but does he know where Cap's going to aim?


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