Wow, only 200? That really changes things... I dunno, though. If they get to be in their true forms, I think the Asgardians are screwed. If they boom tube to Asgard, they're in trouble.
What if Surtur helps out? He's like a 1000 feet tall. He's from Mushpheleim, a dimension in Asgard. In disassembled he reforged the Mjolnir for Thor. Odin has his Gungnir and his Scepter, Thrudstok(channels cosmic energy), Ulik and the rest of his troll race, they are also based in a dimension Asgard, Ymir and his Ice giants from Nifhelheim, another Asgardian based dimension, beings like Kurse and what not.
long you have to clarify who the New Gods are fighting. Asgardians are basically anyone listed above. If it's all of Asgard, I see it going the way of Odin, Thor, and Surtur.
I reread your first post on this thread, and it mentioned All Asgardians. If it's all of them, they win. People think Asgard is just a floating castle or something, when it's an entirely different world of it's own.
Isn't "Asgard" just one part of the nine worlds, the city where Thor, Odin, Baldur... etc spend most of their time? Those gods are always referred to as Asgardians but beings like Hel, Surtur, Ymir are not. ie "Asgard" is the name of their actual city.
The Trolls, Frost Giants, Fire Giants... Nifleheim, Muspelheim... are separate from Asgard... hence, those beings wouldn't be part of the Asgardian contingent. I could be wrong though. lol
Yes, not everyone from or near Asgard are Asgardians, I realize the numbers difference, that's why I said that. Kurse isn't an Asgardian, neither is Loki the frost giant.
I may have been too vague, though.
The New Gods are a bit more than 200, just not shown, and I was including Darkseid and his Kalibak and the new Gods on Apok.
The numbers difference isn't too much to make a difference when you add in all their respective technology.
And JEEEEEZ everyone jumped me for saying most New Gods can lift around 60tons, I only said this because I read it. Like I read that most Asgardians can lift 20-30 tons. My bad
So, only the human looking ones are Asgardians? All those I listed there are part of the Six Different Races of Asgard. So there not asgardians? Is Surtur a Suturarian? Muspheliamian? Demon, yes, but a demon from Asgard, which makes him an ASGARDIAN DEMON... Or is he a normal anti-christian/catholic demon? How bout Ulik? Is a Trollian? You get my point. All Asgardians win. Ymir is a Frost Giant, but since he's from Asgard or one of it's nine dimensions, he's an ASGARDIAN FROST GIANT
Oh hell, if it's all six races of Asgard, the New Gods are getting RAPED. I was just assuming Thor and his people, but I think say ASGARDIANS should mean the giants and elves and trols, etc. Expecially since you're bringing in Darkseid and Kalibak and those from Apokolips.
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again - 1000's v about 200. no way in hel tech is gonna make up THAT big a difference. and of those 200 the bulk of the power lies in about 25 of them. and loki is odin's adopted son and is considered an asgardian. unless you're just saying forget loki because it's your thread so you can do that.
and i'm not too sure about draco's GIANT new gods. perhaps that was true at one point, but there have been many much more recent visits of characters to new genesis and apokolips and the new gods have never been shown to be giants. could it just be something that was phased out over time?
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cosmic odyssey for one - the new gods were definitely not giants. i have other recent issues that depict them the same as anyone else when people visit new genesis. and supes has visited apok a number of times and darkseid is not giant. is it only on new genesis? that doesn't seem to make much sense.
and odin has led the 'legions' of asgard into many wars. there are thousands - they filled the rainbow bridge. asgardians are, i assume, those who live in the city of asgard. what about someone like fandral? he's asgardian but not a 'god' - at least not of anything i've ever heard of. all the warrior's 3 are the same. asgard is peopled with thousands of warriors. if you're not counting them, then basically you're saying thor and odin and balder. what about the grand vizier? heimdal? hugin and munin?
The only way for Superman or most anyone to get to NewGen or Apok is through a BoomTube, the BT changes the passenger to the size of the people on new gen.
Orion has told Superman that the earth is but a speck compaired to New Gen.
They are friggin huge, most definatly giants.
Very vague, because I can't name every single person to fight.
The idea was Odin and his closet warriors vs Skyfather and his closest warriors.
But if Odin is going to have 10x the people then it's not much of a fight, unless the New Gods can be giants, and their power would grow proportionatly.
IMO this is an uneven match, Asgard is just a city in the Norse God Realm, its just like the USA but not the whole Earth. But the New GOds world is one freakin WORLD !!!
So someone said above that they have to include, Frost Giants, Demons, Underworld dudes, and shit. this is true !!
If its just Asgard vs. New GOds, Asgard goes waaaaaaayyyyyyyy down !!