That's riot of the blood Iori where Iori goes berserk. He is more powerful, faster, mindless and more violence than normal Iori. Normal Iori never did anything like that to Kyo.
Kyo wins, a lot of the answers are based off bias here, ofcourse ryu's more popular so he wins, but kyo's won more tournaments ,has more way way more moves, and fights vs stronger opponents than ryu not to mention he was born with his power.
as far as this whole ryu wonders and trains to hone his skills, wth does he do?? 20yrs of wondering and fighting to become stronger and he only has 3 moves?
You sound like Sado... And thats not a good thing. Ryu has more than 3 techniques. Ryu has been fighting for far longer, and over far more opponents, alot of his victories are not part of tournaments. And he has fought people stronger than himself before, and i a few cases has defeated them.
=12905518]Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You sound like Sado... And thats not a good thing. Ryu has more than 3 techniques. Ryu has been fighting for far longer, and over far more opponents, alot of his victories are not part of tournaments. And he has fought people stronger than himself before, and i a few cases has defeated them.
Whats your argument based on? [/QUOTE]
WHATS YOUR ARGUMENT BASED ON FANBOY...
DUDE! this article is like 5 years old now and so is the rivalry... i think the best way to run these kind of articles is to update them accordingly with the games/character they correspond to. in order to keep everything interesting and sensible...
For example in this case, we are in 2010 and the last update on kyo is that he is fighting in KOF XIII tournament with the following moves.
THROWS MOVE NAME PROPERTIES
b/f+AC (near) Issetu Seoinage [U],NR
COMMAND ATTACKS
f+B Gesiki: Goufu You [O],#
df+D Hatizyuuhatisiki [L],KD,#
Cancel chart A B C D CD
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Standing near [M]/r/c [L]/-/c [M]/c [M]/- [M]/c
Standing far [M]/-
Crouching [M]/r/c [L]/r/- [M]/c [L]/c
Vertical jump [O]/- [O]/- [O]/- [O]/- [M]/-
Diagonal jump [O]/- [O]/- [O]/- [O]/-
Critical Counter Initiator: close C
#. Note that Kyo's standing D is his old far D animation, unlike some
other characters.
1. GOUFU YOU:
2. HATIZYUUHATISIKI:
3. ONIYAKI:
4. YAMIBARAI:
5. KAI:
6. OBOROGURUMA:
7. KOTOTSUKI YOH:
8. OROTINAGI:
He has an updated story, moves, costume, feats and so on and so forth...
and the last we heard of Ryu was {since i am supporting kyo, ill only put official stuff here, in order to be fair, not sum made up non-sense arguments that SF fanboys put up such as "ryu will win..raaa!!..." (thats the best argument a ryu supporter can come up with by the way)}
so here we go... the last we heard of ryu was:
"Sometime after the second World Warrior tournament, Ryu enters into a new tournament to further master his skills" wtf!? sometime after... exactly what time and what tournament is this... and oh my god i am just reading ryu's story and it doesnt make shit sense to me... and the only notable tournament he won was street fighter 1 and that wasnt exactly a win either.
and listen to this...
!!Street Fighter!!
Ryu is one of the participants of the World Warrior tournament. After defeating all challengers, Ryu's skills earn him the right to fight its host, Sagat. Sagat nearly beats Ryu into unconsciousness and, thinking he had won, drops his guard to help Ryu up... wtf?!!
!!Street Fighter Alpha series!!
A. He encounters and fights Akuma on a secluded island known as Gokuentou, but Akuma was only testing him. WTF!?!
B.Sometime after escaping the island, Ryu battles Ken and LOSES. wtf!?! exactly what time...when where how...
C.when Ryu confronts Bison, he is defeated despite putting up a valiant fight. Bison takes the semi-conscious Ryu and begins brainwashing him WTF!?!?
!!Super Street Fighter II Turbo!!
During the World Warrior tournament, Ryu enters to test his skills, and defeats many of the new warriors. However, it is unknown (wtf) how far he progressed in the tournament, though it is known that he did NOT progress far enough into the tournament to have a rematch with Sagat. wtf!?!?!
!!Super Street Fighter IV!!
A. Sometime after the second World Warrior tournament, Ryu enters into a new tournament WTF!?!?! where what when... tournament???
B. Ryu also meets up with a former rival Sagat and remembers the promised rematch as they fought. During the final round with the Tournament Host Seth (actually a copy of him), he defeats him in the S.I.N. headquarters. FINALLY!! the hobo manages to win sumthing....but wait... i think he defeated sagat and sagat's copy seth. either/both ways he pretty much defeated the same person he barely managed to defeat centuries ago lol :P
!!Street Fighter III!! (why is it three, i dont know...doesnt it make the SFIV...kind of an alpha of it....like SFAlpha was an alpha to SFII although it came afterwards :P....CRAPCOM shud really fire some writers for this non-sense....)
A. His most notable fight(lol at most notable) during the tournament is against Hugo, who is able to withstand his Shin Shoryuken and hold his own. Though disputed if canon or not, he is defeated by Oro, and continues his travels afterward. WTF!?!?! the losing streak of the hobo continues....in the future as well...
B. At some point,(what, how when and where) he encounters Alex, whom he solidly defeats. finally he manages to defeat for the third time... but here is the catch the SFIII is made in the future...and god knows after practicing his lame shoryuken a million times that even shingo can counter... he manages to defeat who...? alex??...LOL dont make me laugh...
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reference
streetfighter.wikiadotcom-wiki-Ryu
if you dont wanna agree with the link given above than dont bother to reply ...cuz your probably delusional and will come up with your best argument (ryu will win... RAAAA!)
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so the fact of the matter is...that... ryu in his complex CRAPCOM world only managed to defeat 1 person who is worthy of even mentioning against the KOF roster...sagat... (now dont come up saying that he must have defeated the others in the tournament to get to these people....WELL YEA he did defeat the roster of street fighter 1 to get to sagat and the roster of SFIV to get to seth (clone of sagat) but thats it... and all of that was done BARELY....and with the help of satsui no hado...and years of shoryuken practices....lol i cant believe that his winning quote in SSFIV is "you must defeat my satsui no ass or what ever.... CRAPCOM... really..?
and dont come up saying.. taht KYO wins cuz SNK wants it to... ofcourse... SNK does want him to win...he is there protagonist... but unlike they CRAPCOM there protagonist has a reason to win... unlike RYU he doesnt loses all the major fights...its not like his opponents give him hands or pick him up or "TEST" him...
to end this technically....just think about it... kyo is a succesful fighter...that polished his fighting style over years... proving his abilities and the improvements in them during the consecutive tournaments, which occureed annually for the most parts... he showed his improvements and contemporary move within calculated amount of time... unlike the other hobo we are discussing who spent unknown amount of time...in and an unknown place in God knows what tournaments... and to make it worst...he still knows 3 moves...and i saw some dumb*** argue earlier... that ryu doesnt have 3 moves... ok...how many are they... 4..? oh my god....dont tell me they are 6 !!! ZOMG OMFG!!!!.... aaaah.... PATHETIC!!!....
and just to make sure that the guy really does have only three moves... here u go ...
Ryu Haduken (Fireball) Move: ****THATS 1
D, DT, T + P
Ryu Shoryuken (Dragon Punch Uppercut) Move: ****THATS 2
T, D, DT + P
Ryu Tatsumaki Senpuu-Kyaku (Hurricane Kick) Move: ****THATS 3
D, DB, B + K
Ryu Normal Moves: OMG the guy above could be right..he has 6! moves!!!
Ryu Dash Punch Move: ****THATS 4
T + HP
Ryu Overhead Punch Move: ****THATS 5
T + MP
Ryu Crouching Medium Kick Move: ****THATS 6
D + MK
OMG RYU IS GODD!!!!.... NOT!!.... please RYU fans... i dont have anything against... but trust me he has got nothing agianst... KYO...
just a simple whirlwind kick from kyo... can counter the firball over and over again...(regardless of which firball it is cuz they all have the same projectile and their speed varies very slightly) and to "DEFEAT HIS SHORYUKEN" kyo just has to take a step back... and watch him slowly fall from grace and punish him each and every way he wants with no less than 20 moves at his disposal........
finally... as for the hurricane kick... hmmm this is a tricky bit... NOT!
P.S please dont come up saying... that i couldnt figure out the hurricane kick... cuz that would be just embarassing to all the RYU fans...if you have been smart enuff to read all the way till here, than you would be smart enuff to realize that KYO can chose any of his basic to DM moves to counter that...
Your running around screaming "Fanboy" with no reason, nor provocation kid, you even got a topic closed for doing this, and you've added nothing other than "Kyo has more moves so he winzors!"
Anyone with half a brain wil tell you that it's not the number of techniques that will win a match, but the quality of the techniques.
Bison's ending was non-canon, so mentioning that out of context is useless.
And I for one am actually glad Ryu has a few losses to his record, it actually makes him a more well rounded character than someone who endlessly jobs everyone around him. Kyo has had one official loss, and that was to Goenitz, and a few draw matches against Iori, thats it.
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Last edited by Darkstorm Zero on Aug 11th, 2010 at 03:40 AM
@addy : You make yourself looks bad with that kind of argument and bad spelling. More moves doesn't automatically make Kyo a winner. Yeah, I admit Kyo will win but I won't say any proof here since I'm sick with this kind of debate. Endless and full of ignorant people. If you want to debate, at least use proper words. Thank you very much.
LOL @ proper words and spelling.... COME ON A-HOLES!!
This is not an English class.... Go PHUCK YOURSELF...now that’s bad spelling for you.... do you I think care? Do you think I need an English certificate from you guys...?
Second... (^English corrections since the idiots here think it’s an English class)
"And I for one am actually glad ^that^ Ryu has a few losses to his record, it actually makes him a more well rounded character than someone who endlessly jobs everyone around him. Kyo has had one official loss, and that was to Goenitz, and a few draw matches against Iori, thats it."
In a sentence, this is what a losing team's supporter would say....
Want more...? yes i did say that kyo had more moves, but i think u forgot to read that i also mentioned how he can counter them... and since when did "quality" of the move mattered? wasnt the damage, speed of execution, speed or recovery used to be important? and how does a repetitive move set is quality...?? infact how does anything repetitive becomes quality...??
and even after that speech... you yourself mentioned the 'extra moves' rendering your "quality" quote invain...
and lets see the extra moves....
Does the PRESENT RYU have all of them?? i dont think so...
you even wrote down moves from a non-canon VS series... come on... talk about it being canon... LOL (i laughed so hard when you managed to prove ONE of ryu's defeat as non-canon) and i think the other hadou ass moves you bravely mentioned were only performed by evil ryu?
anyways even after agreeing to all you said... it still doesnt make any difference... cuz he is still a big time loser... the extra supers and specials you mentioned have like 3 shoryukens and 2 hadoukens. just with a variant damage...
i mean lets do a head to head comparison... the input for ryu's hadouken translates as kyo's two distinct moves just based on weak or strong punch. and both of them have separate series of possible inputs to them... including a kick on the third input... so while you are shoving your quality up Ryu's butt... Kyo is gonna kick it... kusanagi style... and thats a normal kyo with normal move to you... not something evil,shin or mega or ultra...
anyhow... you ryu fans are played...im gonna start a ryu vs shingo forum... now thats a close fight... cuz all the argument you guys seem to have come up with are spelling mistakes and "RAAA ryu will win"... pathetic....
Last edited by addy24 on Aug 11th, 2010 at 06:18 AM
Wow, several paragraphs woth of letters that basically amount to you chewing on your keyboard... Brilliance if I have ever seen it.
You obviously have very little knowlege of any form of written language, or any meaning behind the words themselves.
Here:
In context of this argument, I used the term "quality" as a general statement, simply because Ryu's techniques are so well used by him, that it completely trumps Kyo's 2 dozen techniqes with only three of his own. The three techniques Ryu does use outside of supers are all he needs to do the same job. I mentioned the others merely to state the simple fact that he has mre than three, and out of all but one, they are all derived from the three basic special techniques of his discipline.
All the techniques I have mentioned are canon... You've only proved that you know nothing about Street Fighter and Ryu in particular.
Here, I'll redo the list and where they appeared canonically, just for your refference:
Specials:
#1: Shankunetsu Hadouken = First officially appeared in Super Street Fighter 2 and has been with him ever since
#2: Joudan Sakotsu Geri = First appeared in Street Fighter 3 The Next Generation (Original Technique)
#3: Hadou No Kamai = Only apperance was in Street Fighter Alpha 3
Supers:
#1: Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku = First appeared in Street Fighter Alpha
#2: Denjin Hadouken = First appeared in Street fighter 3 The Next Generation
#3: Metsu Shoryuken v1 = Only appeared in Street Fighter Alpha 3
#4: Metsu Shoryuken v2 = Only Appeared in Super Street Fighter 4
#5: Shin Shoryuken = First Appeared in Street fighter 3 The Next Generation
Now, None of those moes are neither non-canon nor are they Evil Ryu exclusives, your argument has fallen apart horribly here.
If you want to run through gameplay rather than established fact, then it depends on the skills of the players. I can hapily state that Ryu is a strong defensive player with loads of stamina and powerful counters, while Kyo is offence orientated with tonnes of combos and some solid backup.
I take nothing away from Kyo, and I was also under the assumption that each fighter would have access to all their moves under normal circumstances, as is usually the case here, not just their "latest craze" that you seem to be tripping on.
So, in closing, you need to cool down and stop with the insults and the trolling. Learn some basic spelling and grammar as well, it's not english class, but making sense here means it won't be such a pain in the ass to read your posts and take you more seriously, because as it stands, your proving yourself to be the next Dev1on...
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.simple ,just watch kusanagi and yagami team ending in kof xi 
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Apr 28th, 2010 01:55 PM
However thats a power of Iori ,so his stronger than kyo. 
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