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Creshosk
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Prove DD's skills?

Hes trained as a ninja. Olympic level athelete(agility, stamina etc). Expert in boxing, judo and multiple forms of Martial Arts. How do you want me to prove these things? Read a few DD comics and his handbook.

Can anyone prove Shang-Chi is the best Martial artist on Earth? Hes the best Kung-FU artist on Earth. Difference.

Martial Arts > Kung-Fu.
Kung Fu is a Martial Art. roll eyes (sarcastic)

How about scans?

of him legitiamatly beating some impressive characters. Pressur point attacks on reguler thugs aren't really impressive. smile


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Anyway, back on topic. Can anyone prove Sabertooth is a master at any fighting style? Or even an expert at?


there's no need to.. his training is well documented and his fighting skills are imprerssive to even wolverine.. alongside that he has a 7 on the fighting scale...


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Oh...good match-up...pretty complicated too..to make one thing perfectly clear..DD will soley fight to stay alive in this one...meaning..he's completely in a defensive position..which on the other hand make things pretty smooth for Creed...if DD manages to stay alive depends on how ambitious Snaggletooth is in that very situation..trying to kill Daredevil could mean a challenge for him..and we all know how much he loves to be challenged...

if it's a fight to the death DD has no chance at all...and if Sabretooth only wants to give it a try...The Man without fear might stay barely alive...


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Oh...good match-up...pretty complicated too..to make one thing perfectly clear..DD will soley fight to stay alive in this one...meaning..he's completely in a defensive position..which on the other hand make things pretty smooth for Creed...if DD manages to stay alive depends on how ambitious Snaggletooth is in that very situation..trying to kill Daredevil could mean a challenge for him..and we all know how much he loves to be challenged...

if it's a fight to the death DD has no chance at all...and if Sabretooth only wants to give it a try...The Man without fear might stay barely alive...


ummmm yyyyyyyyyyyyeah.... confused


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you gotta remember DD is a martial art supremo, not sayin its a deciding factor but its gotta count for somethin plus his senses that alows him to see things b4 there happened, like i said sabretooth might win this but its gonna be one loooong fight, the reason i say this is cuz DD is very acute with martial arts.


they are both one level below wolverine in fighting according to marvel. sabretooth has different kinds of senses, but it doesn't mean dd's are better. and what good are fighting skills when you won't be able to keep him down (healing factor and incredibly dense muscle). all he has to do is focus, and he will beat daredevil very easily

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there's no need to.. his training is well documented and his fighting skills are imprerssive to even wolverine.. alongside that he has a 7 on the fighting scale...


it's still 6/7 on fighting skills for sabretooth. he's still has more experience than daredevil though

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Kung Fu is a Martial Art. roll eyes (sarcastic)

How about scans?

of him legitiamatly beating some impressive characters. Pressur point attacks on reguler thugs aren't really impressive. smile


Yes Kung-Fu is a Martial Art. Thats all hes master at. Daredevil is Expert in the Martail Arts. That includes Kung-Fu, Judo, Ninjitsu, and other styles. As well as America boxing.

Scans of what? I already showed scans of him beating Spiderman, Punisher, Cap. I also already showed a scan of hium using pressure points on someone. Ive said hes also done it to Punisher and Kingpin i believe.

Can you or anyone else show scans that show Shang-Chi is better than Daredevil?

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it's still 6/7 on fighting skills for sabretooth. he's still has more experience than daredevil though


it's changed on different scales.. but considering the guy can outfight wolverine and the majority of the stat scales put him at a 7.. so do I.


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there's no need to.. his training is well documented and his fighting skills are imprerssive to even wolverine.. alongside that he has a 7 on the fighting scale...


Wrong. Sabertooth is ranked a 6 in the Marvel Encyclopedia and Marvel.com gives him a 5? Huh?

His training is well documented as having training from the CIA. Is it documented as him being an expert in MA or any fighting style? If so prove that. Cause it sure as hell doesnt say it in Marvel.com nor in the Marvel Encyclopedia. big grin

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they are both one level below wolverine in fighting according to marvel. sabretooth has different kinds of senses, but it doesn't mean dd's are better. and what good are fighting skills when you won't be able to keep him down (healing factor and incredibly dense muscle). all he has to do is focus, and he will beat daredevil very easily


All he has to do is focus. How often is that? Daredevil always focuses.

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Wrong. Sabertooth is ranked a 6 in the Marvel Encyclopedia and Marvel.com gives him a 5? Huh?

His training is well documented as having training from the CIA. Is it documented as him being an expert in MA or any fighting style? If so prove that. Cause it sure as hell doesnt say it in Marvel.com nor in the Marvel Encyclopedia. big grin

the references you just used place kitty pride on an equal fighting ability with shang shi.. I'm not so sure that they should exactly be taken as the gospel truth... confused

they also say sabes is at peak human levels in many aspects.. which he obviously is not... sabretooth is one of the worst cases to bring up for stats because they're always wrong for him...


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ummmm yyyyyyyyyyyyeah.... confused


what? something in there that you don't understand? feel free to ask...


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Please can someone show PROOF that Sabertooth or Shang-Chi is a better fighter than Daredevil. Especially Sabertooth.


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the references you just used place kitty pride on an equal fighting ability with shang shi.. I'm not so sure that they should exactly be taken as the gospel truth... confused

they also say sabes is at peak human levels in many aspects.. which he obviously is not... sabretooth is one of the worst cases to bring up for stats because they're always wrong for him...


youre the one who mentioned he has a 7 on the fighting scale which isnt true. I dont know if you were reffering to Wolverine, but it seemed as if you were talking about Sabertooth.

Youre the one who brought up his stats. Not me. big grin

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what? something in there that you don't understand? feel free to ask...


no I understood you just fine.. you just had a lot of writing for a statment that didn't equate to that much that's all..


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Please can someone show PROOF that Sabertooth or Shang-Chi is a better fighter than Daredevil. Especially Sabertooth.


well him outfighting wolverine who's outfought daredevil is pretty conclussive evidence..


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youre the one who mentioned he has a 7 on the fighting scale which isnt true. I dont know if you were reffering to Wolverine, but it seemed as if you were talking about Sabertooth.

Youre the one who brought up his stats. Not me. big grin


yeah I did bring up his stats.. which was a 7 on multiple scales throughout the early 90's.. you have one outdated and inconclusive website, and a contradictory encyclopedia and you want me to be swayed by your argument? not gonna happen..


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well him outfighting wolverine who's outfought daredevil is pretty conclussive evidence..


I guess Sabertooths scattered pieces are testimony to that ehh? laughing

Well Daredevil outfought Sabertooth. So by youre standards that means DD > Sabertooth > Wolverine ehh? Happy Dance

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yeah I did bring up his stats.. which was a 7 on multiple scales throughout the early 90's.. you have one outdated and inconclusive website, and a contradictory encyclopedia and you want me to be swayed by your argument? not gonna happen..


You bring up early 90's? laughing Are you serious? Who here brings up 90's stats?

I didint bring up stats at all. You did. Then when proved wrong, you say "90's stats blah" Leave stats out.

Show proof that Sabertooths fighting ability is better than Daredevils. Simple.

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All he has to do is focus. How often is that? Daredevil always focuses.


i just meant that if sabretooth were to focus, he would win alot faster compared to his normal, arrogant state of mind.

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