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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well colossus was weaker than both thing and she hulk when he started out and its not until recently that hes had a slight strength increase as a result of growing up which made him low level class 100. By its nature its not a dramatic increase and hasnt been shown to be so in the comics.

Thing has continually increased in strength as a result he is now low level class 100 as well.

She hulk while wearing her jupiter suit was shown to be at least twice as strong as Thing. Unless youre telling me a few years of growing up has made colossus over twice as strong as he was (which is the least he'd need to be to be on a par strength wise) then yes She hulk is considerably stronger than him.

Is Colossus a better fighter? Thats debatable. Theyre both trained by exceptional fighters however none of them are known for their fighting skills and its not something thats ever highlighted in their appearances. As such theyre on the same level in that respect which is also the view Marvel have taken. (Theyre both level 3)

Colossus can withstand higher temperatures than She hulk but then she has a healing factor that makes up for that.

Colossus has no clear cut advantage in any area. Theyre evenly matched in all but strength where going by recent accounts she considerably stronger.

She hulk wins.

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Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Actually Colossus first big upgrade is when the Xmen all "died" and moved to Australia. His had a few since. No X men, know Whirly

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well colossus was weaker than both thing and she hulk when he started out and its not until recently that hes had a slight strength increase as a result of growing up which made him low level class 100. By its nature its not a dramatic increase and hasnt been shown to be so in the comics.

Thing has continually increased in strength as a result he is now low level class 100 as well.

She hulk while wearing her jupiter suit was shown to be at least twice as strong as Thing. Unless youre telling me a few years of growing up has made colossus over twice as strong as he was (which is the least he'd need to be to be on a par strength wise) then yes She hulk is considerably stronger than him.

Is Colossus a better fighter? Thats debatable. Theyre both trained by exceptional fighters however none of them are known for their fighting skills and its not something thats ever highlighted in their appearances. As such theyre on the same level in that respect which is also the view Marvel have taken. (Theyre both level 3)

Colossus can withstand higher temperatures than She hulk but then she has a healing factor that makes up for that.

Colossus has no clear cut advantage in any area. Theyre evenly matched in all but strength where going by recent accounts she considerably stronger.

She hulk wins.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Id love for you to prove it my friend because i actually have access to all Uncanny issues since 1975. Colossus has been officially class 70 up until his recent upgrade a few years back shortly after X-men 100 which was the return of Chris Claremont to X-men and the start of rogues short time as team leader.

KNOW who youre dealing with, dont talk waffle.

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Originally posted by pr1983
No recent showings of strength? what about taking a full on sentinel blast and not flinching... or when they were trying to get into the danger room, and all those lasers were pounding him...

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Originally posted by pr1983
No recent showings of strength? what about taking a full on sentinel blast and not flinching... or when they were trying to get into the danger room, and all those lasers were pounding him...

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Originally posted by Metalmanx
I think Colosuss' clear cut advantages are his durability actually and experience.

I'd much rather have nigh-invulnerability than a healing factor in this kind of fight. Being invulnerable, there is no need for a healing factor. While She-Hulk can and will feel pain, Colossus' received pain (if any) will be drastically smaller than Shulkie's. It's not just temperatures that he's more durable against you know.

I really wish they'd give just one really good showing of strength on Colossus' part, just at least for the next few years, so we have something to go by.

And experience definitely goes a long way in a fight with such a similar opponent, wouldn't you say so? And Colossus has experience in spades, unlike Shulkie.

But again, I respect your opinion, not saying you're wrong or anything. This is just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Read it - his energy is realligned and little nodes get straightened - only 1975 pfft
He comes back stronger after this, they keep commenting on how different he is - first thing he does is go and sort Sym out as I remember, if you have access you should know this.

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Originally posted by pr1983
Whirly, usually strength and durability are intertwined, i usually (by accident) substitute one for the other...

metalmanx, both were in astonishing, a sentinel attacked the mansion, and it fired at colossus and logan, colossus stood in front of logan and took the whole blast without so much as a stagger...

when the danger room achieved its own intelligence, it trapped shadowcat and the students inside, and was going to kill them... colossus went into the walls and was ripping circuitry out of the walls when the security system kicked in, firing lasers (that i'd heard were meant to stop gladiator), and he resisted longer than most would...

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where does it state that he received a strength upgrade?

It does NOT. You gave false in formation so please refrain from polluting this thread with your waffle.

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Originally posted by pr1983
or wolverine whirly...

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Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
He got an upgrade in that issue. No pollution you were wrong again - reading the comics when they came out in continuity - before you were born or in kindergarden helps. Thats why you get it wrong....... probably.

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Originally posted by Demas
Has Colossus ever been done in by blunt trauma? We've seen She-Hulk messed up by it, but what about Peter?

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Just say the word.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When they came out was obviously the first and last time you read them which goes some way into explaining how utterly useless you are on all things X-related.

No strength upgrade as you claimed. I'll gladly post scans if you wish to continue this line of argument. Just say the word.