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Once again, that's ol' nef. New one nerfed that Avengers and Thunderbolts combined


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You're not familliar with New Avengers, are you ?

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And Supes is getting stronger all the time, by the end of Crisis....... Wait and see. shifty


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You're not familliar with New Avengers, are you ?

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No hype man. Just pure ownage.


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Yessss i do .... now answer my question my friend, and try and answer it truthfully wink !

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And Supes is getting stronger all the time, by the end of Crisis....... Wait and see. shifty


I thought it was the other way around(like only going as fast at that train in the cover)..........hrm.........


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Yessss i do .... now answer my question my friend, and try and answer it truthfully wink !


I wanted to but I swore the oath of secrecy sick


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I wanted to but I swore the oath of secrecy sick


Is that a joke ... sorry im so confused

Any way, my point is .... In the recent New Avengers Series (taking place about 30 comics after the picture you have posted) we where shown Nefaria escaping from the shiled raft prison .... He was unable to do so until electro had 'blown a fuse'.

My point being that he was unable to escape from a shiled prison. As my good friend MR Splatt is pointing Superman is currently becoming as powerful as he once was during the Silver and Golden ages, i.e moving planets like chess pieces. It is unlikely that a Shiled prison would be able to hold someone who could freely move the planets ! Though the pic seems impressive one has to account for who was on the Avengers roster at the time. In conclusion i suggest you read the latest Infinity Crisis edition and see what Super boy was able to do with the combined forces of the JSA and Teen Titans ! OWENAGE as you would say !!!!!!!!!!!! smokin'

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They had many of them doped up so they wouldn't break out


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Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Is that a joke ... sorry im so confused

Any way, my point is .... In the recent New Avengers Series (taking place about 30 comics after the picture you have posted) we where shown Nefaria escaping from the shiled raft prison .... He was unable to do so until electro had 'blown a fuse'.

My point being that he was unable to escape from a shiled prison. As my good friend MR Splatt is pointing Superman is currently becoming as powerful as he once was during the Silver and Golden ages, i.e moving planets like chess pieces. It is unlikely that a Shiled prison would be able to hold someone who could freely move the planets ! Though the pic seems impressive one has to account for who was on the Avengers roster at the time. In conclusion i suggest you read the latest Infinity Crisis edition and see what Super boy was able to do with the combined forces of the JSA and Teen Titans ! OWENAGE as you would say !!!!!!!!!!!! smokin'


You do of course realize that is not the new avengers don't you? every now and then, characters bow down to newer blood(you know who i am talking about) to elevate them or for the sakes of plot.

And IIRC, Nefaria is currently out and at large as a fugitive from the raft.


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They had many of them doped up so they wouldn't break out


You work for shiled i pressume ? .... would it matter any way .... Superman beats anyone who can be physically stopped by standard chemicals !!!!!!! Invunerable means invunerable in D.C. ! smile

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You work for shiled i pressume ?
Uhh Uhhhh N-no. Of course I don't. Why would you think that? Shield is completely fictional. Now I need your home address so we can send an exter-- I mean Happy squad there.


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You work for shiled i pressume ? .... would it matter any way .... Superman beats anyone who can be physically stopped by standard chemicals !!!!!!! Invunerable means invunerable in D.C. ! smile


It hasn't been made clear how and why Nefaria doesn't escape. One logical explanation is bad writing or he might have been held in something special there.


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It hasn't been made clear how and why Nefaria doesn't escape. One logical explanation is bad writing or he might have been held in something special there.


The point is he was held !!!!!!!!!! Current Supes could easilly lift the entire Island .... he is not being held in any prison unless its is magical or constructed from Kryptonite / New Gen tech .... Marvel strength levels are just not on the same level as Current Supes .... Their Strongest are at most on a Wonder Woman level, with the exception of Skyfathers , and Sentry smile

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The point is he was held !!!!!!!!!! Current Supes could easilly lift the entire Island .... he is not being held in any prison unless its is magical or constructed from Kryptonite / New Gen tech .... Marvel strength levels are just not on the same level as Current Supes .... Their Strongest are at most on a Wonder Woman level, with the exception of Skyfathers , and Sentry smile


The point is that it was held after he was defeated by an entier roster he stomped earlier on. God knows what exactly happened for him to land and be kept there. And nope, Superman couldn't do the same. Look at what happened in JLA/Avengers continuity, he got punked by a dogpile while Nefaria shrugged it.

It is completely PIS that a guy who just laid waste to a team would be kept in the raft just like any other inmates without some proper measures that would have been taken.


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The point is that it was held after he was defeated by an entier roster he stomped earlier on. God knows what exactly happened for him to land and be kept there. And nope, Superman couldn't do the same. Look at what happened in JLA/Avengers continuity, he got punked by a dogpile while Nefaria shrugged it.

It is completely PIS that a guy who just laid waste to a team would be kept in the raft just like any other inmates without some proper measures that would have been taken.


Im pretty sure it was implied that Supes Ko's Neafria in the JLA/Avengers crossover .... Supes could easilly have taken out that team, it had little to no muscle on it, you cannot suggest that the likes of Vision and Giant man could hurt Supes .... Nefaria has been Ko'ed by a falling super denseVision .... Vision weighs 90 tons in this form, but i doubt he could barely scratch Current Supes .... Talking about owenage there is the Superboy incident in the last I.C. ! smile

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Im pretty sure it was implied that Supes Ko's Neafria in the JLA/Avengers crossover .... Supes could easilly have taken out that team, it had little to no muscle on it, you cannot suggest that the likes of Vision and Giant man could hurt Supes .... Nefaria has been Ko'ed by a falling super denseVision .... Vision weighs 90 tons in this form, but i doubt he could barely scratch Current Supes .... Talking about owenage there is the Superboy incident in the last I.C. ! smile


He was, then he got pwned and beaten to a pulp by a group of avengers that consisted mainly of half of the guys Nefaria pwned in their own book. So what does that say now?

And Vision and Giant man are a part of that group.


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He was, then he got pwned and beaten to a pulp by a group of avengers that consisted mainly of half of the guys Nefaria pwned in their own book. So what does that say now?

And Vision and Giant man are a part of that group.


Iron man was there but the rest weren't esepcailly the two strongest characters e.g. Wonderman and Herc .... I also have reservations about the realism of that event .... Plus he had been knocked about by a Wonder Woman strength character with a 'mystical' piece of metal ... It probably did a lot of prior damage ... In tern your point is mute !

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Iron man was there but the rest weren't esepcailly the two strongest characters e.g. Wonderman and Herc .... I also have reservations about the realism of that event .... Plus he had been knocked about by a Wonder Woman strength character with a 'mystical' piece of metal ... It probably did a lot of prior damage ... In tern your point is mute !


Wonderman was there. Only Herc is the only one that i didn't really see.......and i might even be wrong with that.

Err....what WW strength character did knocked him again? You couldn't be saying thor can you cause the mjolnir just bounced of Nefaria's chest last time I saw. And i couldn't agree he's on the same level as Diana as well. IMO higher and lower a bit with Supes.

Or do you mean Superman getting knocked about by a "mystical piece of metal"

My tern is mute, while yours is irrelevant. Get your facts straight


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