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Can Pre-Crisis Superman beat Silver Surfer?
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Originally posted by Juntai
Flying backwards faster than light, and doging between rays of red radiation.

this is unbelievable...

Jan 28th, 2006 06:41 PM

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Blowing away GIANT STARS with 'super breath'.

Holy Chit!!!

Jan 28th, 2006 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Juntai
But you're not considering Superman's ability to avoid this, as it has been shown to be in his powerset to vibrate out of tune with this reality and/or timestream, and move faster than the waves of radiation even if he stayed within it. He can be anywhere anywhen anytime he wants, without effort.

PC Supes is king..

Jan 28th, 2006 06:45 PM

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So are your posts...

Anyhow, again I have to agree with Tulika. Supes (no matter which version) is null and boring. Silver Surfer is somewhat similar to Supes, but at least most of the adventures of SS are interesting. When Supes is fighting a man with a blunt knife, Silver Surfer is struggling with cosmic beings.

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[B]Is Supes able to fight in that state? Yeah, probably not.

[quote=Answers.com] He once used his powers to travel through time, but may be unable to engage in time travel under normal circumstances.

well evidently from your own post we can see that Surfer doesn't have complete mastery over time travel,("unable to engage in time travel under normal circumstances")unfortunately for him against some one who can calculate and react within a microsecond, he won't have time to prep.
also SS had aid, and he can only do it for a very short period of time.
Superman on the other hand time travels on a whim.

Jan 28th, 2006 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Juntai
Punch him into the entropy at the end of time, where nothing can exist.
lol.

And it says unable to engage in time travel under normal circumstances. So the matter arises of how he did it that ONE time.
Superman did it issue to issue.

I cant believe he "shoved" him through the time barrier...

Superman was a demi-god.

Jan 28th, 2006 06:58 PM

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Matter manipulation. Turning bullets into rays of light.

This is so kewl,

do you know what super vision does exactly?
never heard of that..

Jan 28th, 2006 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Juntai
It's hard to argue against Pre Crisis Superman, because he's not a solid comic character, this is the same reason I don't like it when people start using 70s-80s feats from Marvel characters and claiming they're canon. Back then, comic characters were TOONS compared to current ones. Superman was an especially powerful Toon, able to make shit up with the likes of Bugs Bunny[the King Toon, mind you.] and even shared some comics with him.

His powerset, when considered at face value, make him pretty much unstoppable by ANY means. He could make it from Earth to the edge of the universe in a single panel, push away a galaxy with nothing but his ring finger and then be snagged out of the air by a cowboy with a lasso'ed rope and a bad attitude.

LOL!!!

Jan 28th, 2006 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by golem370
I say Silver Surfer could at least 2/10 at least at first.

Don't feel bad golem, lol, this is mad funny,
At first you through something Surfer could do, but Jun quickly came back and made you a believer within 3 post's, now your giving SS a measly 2/10,
but we sympathise man, what can anyone do, PC Supes was just no joke.

Jan 28th, 2006 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Tulika
Oh, I forgot to mention. He's also cool.

Like Vanilla Ice.

doh, that was low man, low...

Jan 28th, 2006 07:12 PM

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It says SS may be unable to do it. Potentially. Possibly. Perhaps.

And you think SS doesn't have superfast reflexes?

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It says SS may be unable to do it. Potentially. Possibly. Perhaps.

And you think SS doesn't have superfast reflexes?

no, actually absolutely, Silver Surfer can travel through time but no where near as effortlessly as Superman, and he can only do it for a short period of time, as he says himself, and it even seems to tire him a bit.

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no, actually absolutely, Silver Surfer can travel through time but no where near as effortlessly as Superman, and he can only do it for a short period of time, as he says himself, and it even seems to tire him a bit.

it also seem he has no control over time, why didn't he save her if he did?

Jan 28th, 2006 07:23 PM

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PC Superman was a cosmic. He had time travel, matter manipulation, insane speed and other powerful stuff that bordered on magic.

I'd say they are nearly equal in power. Superman had the durability/strength advantage, Surfer has the ....well, everything else advantage. They would stalemate most likely, that's why it's kinda silly putting post-Superman up against Surfer when PC wasn't just a flying strong man, new guy is nothing but.

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PC Superman was a cosmic. He had time travel, matter manipulation, insane speed and other powerful stuff that bordered on magic.

I'd say they are nearly equal in power. Superman had the durability/strength advantage, Surfer has the ....well, everything else advantage. They would stalemate most likely, that's why it's kinda silly putting post-Superman up against Surfer when PC wasn't just a flying strong man, new guy is nothing but.

good point, but Supes owns the time travel department here. Silver Surfer needs circumstances to do it, and beyond that, he can only sustain the travel a short period time, uhhm seconds apparently.

Jan 28th, 2006 07:34 PM

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Another example of Pre-Crisis Time Travelling. smile

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Jan 28th, 2006 11:12 PM

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Someone has said that Surfur can fly out of our dimension...

Guess what... so can Supes... wink

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Jan 28th, 2006 11:13 PM

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Not only that - he can seal people off into other dimensions too...

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Matter manipulation. Turning bullets into rays of light.

Viva the super kick!!! laughing

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