I personally think that Starkiller would be better of a pick than Yoda, because he could take down a whole Imperial Star Destroyer using the force, while Yoda struggled concentrating on stopping the turbine looking thing from crushing Anakin Skywalker in Episode III, but thats just me, i could just be crazy.
Actually he used the Force to manipulate a big ion cannon or something to bring down the Star Destroyer.
Nice try though.
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And you have proof of this?
Likewise, there is no indications that he would be a bad politician.
Actually he would. If he eliminated all the others, then there would be nothing to compare him to, therefore making him the best, if nothing else, by default.
Actually he made a hell of alot more sense than you did. Logic is your friend, don't abuse him.
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Yoda would stupid as a Sith. You just couldn't take him seriously. I'd just always be laughing at his speech impedement and his size. Untill he killed me of course. Plus he'd keep getting accused of having a Napoleon complex.
While I think the statement that "Yoda is useless next to Sidious" is among the most retarded things I've ever read, it is almost as bad to assert that Yoda would somehow make a decent politician, much less in comparison to someone like Darth Sidious. As Jacen noted, Palpatine didn't just channel the dark side to achieve total victory, but moreso by "brilliant manipulation and an understanding of people's weaknesses". Yoda's demonstrated the political acumen of an unplugged toaster. In no way does he compare to Palpatine's genius, dark side or no.
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It's funny, I never asserted that Yoda would be as good as Palpatine in politics. I just said that there was no indication that he would be bad at it, especially if he was a Sith. He knows how to talk with people, he leads the Jedi Order (which could be compared to a Government Department), and has "good relations" with other species. We've never seen him in that capacity, which shows that there is nothing that says whether he would succeed or fail at politics. That's all i was saying.
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Ah ok, I haven't read much of that book yet. (Yes, I'm a little behind.) I was speaking more of his general demeanor and ability to talk to others, but of course that would be different if he was fueled by the dark side.
In LoE, was it still Valurum (or however you spell it), or was it Palpatine already?
well, yoda would have had no need to know how to interpret politics before the events of at least TPM. He would have just pretty much done what the force told him to do prior to that time, which worked out fine for hundreds of years: it was when he lost much of his ability to use the force to sort out complicated things such as politics that he would have become ignorant of the political spectrum. "the dark side clouding everything" made him look like a buffoon for much of the PT. IMO, he would make a much greater politician were the "binders" to be removed. You know Sidious was using the force to manipulate the people around him as well. If yoda were willing to use the force for that same purpose, that too would improve his political performance.
What are you implying? The dark side of the Force improves one's political skills? I suppose Darth Maul possessed deeply latent Stalinian political cunning with a Hitler-esque charisma? That is a deeply absurd notion. To quote Jacen Solo, circa 40 ABY, "Palpatine seemed to gather most of his power by brilliant manipulation and an understanding of people's weaknesses, not simply by channelling the power of the dark side," this being after he flow walked back to the PT era to witness the downfall of the Old Republic firsthand. Palpatine has been confirmed in multiple sources to be a genius of extraordinary proportions and though Master Yoda's sagely wisdom is without peer, Darth Sidious's intellect is vastly superior. Yoda would need a lot more than the dark side to become a great politician.
oh, i agree without question that palpatine far exceeds Yoda's abilities in politics. I was merely pointing out that Yoda probably had previously trusted the force for guidance prior to the PT, so he had never needed to particularly hone his political skills.
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