Alright, and was Kun trying his hardest? Trying harder than Vodo? Considering he was chatting it up with Vodo, I'd think if anything then that they neither was giving it their all, and Vodo was definitely not giving it easier than Kun was, [Master Fox].
Perhaps there was a chance you noticed that Kun was talking as well? Trying to recruit Vodo? Then once he stops and ignites his saber, he cleaves Vodo in half effortlessly.
Quote, please.
If this is what the Jedi Council have in their seats, then it's quite laughable:
Oh...So it takes him about a split second to gather all his rage together and send a devastating blow? I doubt it....A force push takes maybe 1/2 a second.
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Kun pretty much just says "Screw it," When Vodo refuses Kun's offer, gives him another chance later and when Vodo refuses, Kun kills him...and Vodo was injured there.
And a direct quote would require me to reread Dark Apprentice, it's towards the end, just before the holocron is destroyed. He says he was there to turn Kun back and couldn't truly fight Exar, and Exar killed him.
Yarael Poof was pretty damn good, actually, man died saving Coruscant from total destruction.
As soon as the amulet clamps on his arm, the blasts fire. As well, you'd have to take into consideration he can emit these blasts consecutively with no apparent downtime:
What? You know you can click on them right? They are thumbnails. And, of course, when you click on them you should be able to read them perfectly.
Yeah, Odan was pretty ugly.
Actually yeah I see what you are talking about, but it doesn't seem he hit him - pushed him back maybe, or maybe he did hit his hand. Either way, *shrug*.
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Neither ROTS Sidious nor ROTS Yoda stand a remote chance against these two. Either one of their foes are more than a match for the both of them. Adding the other is simply overkill.
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"Really? Wasn't trying as hard as Kun? Go on, Foxy. Back up this ridiculous claim."
As I said before, he did not set out to kill Kun. One can't battle to the best of their abilities when holding back from killing them. I thought this was obvious.
"To think a now master of the lightsaber Kun, with vast insights into the Darkside, Nadd's teachings, Sadow's scrolls, Sith magic and alchemy, and Sadow's amulet couldn't tool Vodo is pretty ridiculous seeing as how well he faired against Vodo as a padawan with two sabers."
These assumptions are all nice but the fact remains that the comic does not even hint or imply that Kun was 'tooling' him. That is just your interpretation of it and a very biased one if you ask me. My interpretation was that Kun was giving his all and could simply not break through Vodo's defence by outdueling him. Instead he had to destroy his stick. Also can you please explain how all the dark side knowledge and sith magic that Kun has learnt would improve his dueling ability.
"More powerful than Exar Kun's lightsaber" z0mg weakness."
However that quote was obviously wrong and innaccurate as we have seen a saber destroy the stick twice in DLOTS and TSW. Vodo was simply wrong.
"Sure was, I mean Coleman Trebor rocks."
As did Arca Jeth. At least Coleman got killed by the best bounty hunter in the galaxy at the time. Arca Jeth got killed by simple Krath droids.
"No, I've put together a valid arguement. The only thing you can say is the Aleema blast is the final product, in which I've given a multitude of reasons why it isn't. The fact that you don't bother to refute my arguement, and instead try to downplay it is what the definition of a "desperate fanboy" is. So, until you actually refute it - don't call anyone a "fan", because you are so linear in thinking."
Did I say I was going to refute it? It all makes perfect sence to me. However you canot ignore the fact that Kun did set out to kill Aleema. If he had some uber technique with his amulets, don't you think he would have used it? Add on the fact that that is the only time we have ever seen it being used against a force user. It was both simple and innefective. The fact that you are even trying to argue that it was a different attack is desperate fanboyism.
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I wasn't 'banned for a reason'. I was wrongly banned.
BS. He was stated as the greatest foe the darkside had known as of his time.
1. That does not prove that he is the greatest fighter up until that point. It is probably indicating to his teachings and how he kept so many Jedi on the light side.
2. Luke came AFTER Yoda. Luke is far better then Yoda. He's over 10 times more powerful then DE Sidious (I'll provide proof lower down).
3. Exar has demonstrated a feat in the force, besides destroying a star, that takes far more power then ANYTHING Yoda or Sidious have the potential to do.
For why Luke is so much stronger then Sidious, here it is. If you remember in the DN books, Raynar controlled the collective power of 365 planets. Each of these planets was filled to the brim with Kiliks, providing at the very minimum an equal amount of energy per planet as Byss did. Raynar's power supply is 365 times larger then DE Sidious' and DE Sidious is stronger then ROTS Sidious by a large margin.
Well, I can't find the large post I had for why Exar is better then Yoda or Sidious and I'm not retyping the whole thing. I'll post it later.
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No, sorry, it was 'EVER known'. As in Ever. As in of all time until his time. Period.
Oooh, sorry, 'strongest?' In direct reference to combat? With synonyms a 'fiercest?' Most powerful? Most implacable? Give me a break.
Exar destroyed a star? BULLSHIT! I'm calling you out on that: When? Because he was nowhere NEAR the star and Aleema was using the ship to do it. What's Exar done exactly? Omg, he froze a senate! Great, Sidious froze a world. Next point.
And Yoda is also called the greatest force of Light the galaxy had known...since Luke came after, this doesn't even apply.
Yeah, just try to back up Kun here.
And Raynar stronger than Sidious? Exar stronger than Yoda and Sidious? Mmmhmm, post it. I'll be glad to tear it apart. And stop this numerical and comparative stuff. Unless it states Luke is ten times stronger than so and so, don't use it.
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I'm calling it hyperbole then AND it still doesn't mean he was the greatest fighter then Sith had ever known.
Prove that no other Jedi had greater fighting skills then him.
I'm not saying that it is the star feat that makes him powerful. There was another one that has a large amount of proof behind it, but I can't find the thread I posted it in and it was a very long post that I am not going to retype. I'm still looking for it so I can copy paste it.
I will.
Yes he is.
I'm sure you'll try and you'll fail. Still have to find the thread though.
No. I can use numbers if I want to, so shove it.
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