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Tug-of War: Immortal Hercules vs. Classic Juggernaut
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Betageuze
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juggernaut66666.... my friend......

who was puted into wet cement.. in Amazing spiderman 229+230 ????

and Spiderman.. DID this.. on his OWN.. ok.. not only with his (limited) physical powererfforts... but with his BRAIN

at the end of the story.... for THE TIME .. of THAT story

Juggernaut was stopped ?

RIGHT or FALSE ?

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juggernaut digged out himself from the cement and since when is the cement a part of spiderman


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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its even easier to give falsified information, or tell lies, as some would call it.

Why should I waste my time with one such as you, who doesn't realize what a Juggernaut written to his full potential could do.


"you cant realize what my character at full potential can do!!" You sure you cant tell WHY its fanboysm? Maybe because you deny the bad showings the charater you like had, in order to make him better than he is?

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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yeah sure with a psichical backslash


No sir. Jugs was down before the backlash.

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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
since when did savage hulk stop juggernaut or nimrod beat him phisically ?


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to juggernaut6666:

in the fight.... when Hulk want to save the guy... when Juggernaut... wanted to hurt this car-driver (and i believe his wife)

HOW often...... was Juggernaut in this match... KNOCKED down?

and we talk about the meaning of .. UNSTOPPABLE

who walked away..... from the battlefield..... wasnt it the Hulk ????

ok..
nobody knows......what could happened.. if not the X-men appeared
but... they appeared...


right ?

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No scans huh?

I will also point out this again....

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Nimrod vs Juggernaut was recent, and the Juggernaut in that fight was not the classic version.

That example is clearly irrelevant and misleading for this fight.


You are either taking your info from wiki and using it out of context, or you are simply lying.


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Originally posted by Betageuze
juggernaut66666.... my friend......

who was puted into wet cement.. in Amazing spiderman 229+230 ????

and Spiderman.. DID this.. on his OWN.. ok.. not only with his (limited) physical powererfforts... but with his BRAIN

at the end of the story.... for THE TIME .. of THAT story

Juggernaut was stopped ?

RIGHT or FALSE ?


So let me get this straight, Juggernaut withstands a class 50 punch from rouge without bugging, he took on the god force blast, pushed War 3 back for over a mile, smacks around Thor like a rag doll, Was going to punch his way out of a cocoon of solid steel before Thor teleports him away, has a capability of sending people into orbit, knocks Cap B for over a mile......etc etc etc....

Yet for some reason, some genius writer decides to have him stopped by cement.

Yeah, PIS.


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yes juggernaut6666... i mean this fight...

but please ...
answer my question......

and realize... we are talking about... characters.... WITHIN .. the limits.. of their issues.. they appear.....

Did SPIDERMAN .. stopped the JUGGERNAUT... when he has gone for the search of Madame Web.... ???

hey.... if SPIDERMAN.... can STOP the Juggernaut... by his own....(ok .. i dont wanna see.. ho spiderman did... in a fight... WITHOUT.... the "weapons" he... had... but so.. was THAT fight)


did spiderman stopped Juggy ????

yes or no ?

and i mean.... within the 229+230 ... ???

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its even easier to give falsified information, or tell lies, as some would call it.

Why should I waste my time with one such as you, who doesn't realize what a Juggernaut written to his full potential could do.


"you cant realize what my character at full potential can do!!" You sure you cant tell WHY its fanboysm? Maybe because you deny the bad showings the charater you like had, in order to make him better than he is?

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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yeah sure with a psichical backslash


No sir. Jugs was down before the backlash.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
since when did savage hulk stop juggernaut or nimrod beat him phisically ?


http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?...hrpage146hz.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?...hrpage167ou.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?...hrpage177nx.jpg


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So hes never been physically hurt?

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No he didn't he out smarted him and made him step into wet cement juugernaut can't walk on the surface of fluid things


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Originally posted by olympian
"you cant realize what my character at full potential can do!!" You sure you cant tell WHY its fanboysm? Maybe because you deny the bad showings the charater you like had, in order to make him better than he is?



No sir. Jugs was down before the backlash.



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Oh man, I love it when people do this, put words into other peoples post that don't exist.

I think I said you don't realize what a well written Juggernaut can do? I think thats what I said, nope I'm sure thats what I said, I would quote myself but for some reason you already quoted me, yet you still rewrote my sentence, How funny?

A well written Juggernaut is a step above my friend, A juggernaut thats not fooling around, Not going easy, talking trash, The Juggernaut which is used on these forums. No different then saying a "Well Written Superman" Or "A well written Green Lantern" or "Well written Silver Surfer"

Please, before you try to call me a fanboy, make sure you have some hard evidence to do it on kay buddy.


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so how a guy would have the right.. claiming to be... UNSTOPPABLE... if he can't walk on the surface of fluid things ???

juggernaut66666....

do you know.... is there a story.... after .. the ending of "Amazing Spiderman 230" ?...

from the side of Juggernaut ???

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Hercules IS NOT unstoppable...

but so is Juggernaut...


even HULK KILLER HUMANOID... IS NOT .. unstoppable


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This aint a fight...its Tuggo war...


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by the way... i RECOGNIZE... juggernaut6666 VERY VERY .. much

he knows MUCH MORE about Marvel comics.. than i...

BUT

i CANNOT except... that someone has the attribut of beeing unstoppable (no force on earth..).... if this isnt RIGHT

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Oh man, I love it when people do this, put words into other peoples post that don't exist.

I think I said you don't realize what a well written Juggernaut can do? I think thats what I said, nope I'm sure thats what I said, I would quote myself but for some reason you already quoted me, yet you still rewrote my sentence, How funny?

A well written Juggernaut is a step above my friend, A juggernaut thats not fooling around, Not going easy, talking trash, The Juggernaut which is used on these forums. No different then saying a "Well Written Superman" Or "A well written Green Lantern" or "Well written Silver Surfer"

Please, before you try to call me a fanboy, make sure you have some hard evidence to do it on kay buddy.


How is that different than someone saying "a full potential Hulk" cannot be overcome physically when it has?

Perhaps you should had though best what to write before doing it because it sure seems to imply that. A well written character doesnt have only good things. But bad ones as well. They are part of it.

The fact you seem to dismiss the times he has been hurt even before the massive powerdown he had, only hurts the view on such character.

It as nothing to do with "going down easily". No one is spotting that kind of dumb logic, or at least im surely not doing it. What i dont do is dismiss bad showings only because they are bad. Thats fanboysm. For either side.

Kay buddy?

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Did Juggs had some sorta telepathic abilities when he was classic?
If so he could affect herc while the tuggo


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Betageuze
juggernaut666666.....


(normal) HULK .. has STOPPED the Juggernaut before......

IF Juggernaut would be UNSTOPPABLE... when he moves on

WHY Hulk has knocked him off his feet.
WHY Nimrod.. has beaten him
WHY the X-Men .. has beaten him
WHY ... he was STOPPED... by Spiderman.. when he got into wet cement....

there are MANY ways... to STOP the "unstoppable" foe ...

and a lot of individuals (and teams) had proved that in the past

my understanding of a UNSTOPPABLE guy... IF he moves on.. is...
that he CANNOT BE stopped... CANNOT put down....

so....
how many (terrastial) guys.. has proved that ?????????



YOUR "THEORIE" OF THE UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT.... DOES NOT PERSIST......

sorry...


Hehe, Immortal Thor site has a lot of faults. It says that Hercules is stronger, but it also says:
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Superhuman strength, and durability; the mystical attribute of being completely unstoppable (once in motion, no physical force or obstacle can halt the Juggernaut's progress)


Having that said, Juggernaut wins.

Hercules might even be stronger, but he CANNOT hurt the Juggernaut. Many people have fought the Classic Juggernaut, but only person that I've seen hurting him physically (when being in full power) is Vision who phased his hand inside Juggy.

EDIT: With physical I mean hand to hand combat or such, no sonics or psionics.


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to TSHERN:

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....

this is a TUG OF WAR MATCH...... he neednt HURT Juggernaut....

it is a match of

physical strength... and endurance...

and because of the greater strength of Hercules...

he would win.. in my opinion....

he HAS NOT to hurt Cain...

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Originally posted by Betageuze
to TSHERN:

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....

this is a TUG OF WAR MATCH...... he neednt HURT Juggernaut....

it is a match of

physical strength... and endurance...

and because of the greater strength of Hercules...

he would win.. in my opinion....

he HAS NOT to hurt Cain...
Like i said Juggs had some telepathic abilities while he was classic...mabye mess wif herc's mind


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