What youre not getting my friend, what seems to be totally bypassing your faculties is the fact that Jean is literally the Phoenix Force. LITERALLY. She is a segment of the Force in human form. An avatar. However as she is not the sum total of the Force that means it is at the same time separate. However as part of the Force, the power she wields is her own. The greater Consciousness just dictates how and when this segment of itself can use the power.
Liken the Phoenix to Multiple Man and Jean as one of its many duplicates. Jean is both separate and one with Phoenix at the same time.
Understand?
Hope we're clear now?
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Jean has demonstrated greater control of reality my friend so that isnt going to happen anytime soon. That which Jaspers both manipulates and depends on (reality) to be anything of note is something Jean can hold in its entirety in the palm of her hand, having demonstrated she can break it down to its component parts.
Jean possesses vast power both within and without reality. She is classified in CURRENT continuity as "the ultimate mutation" (a point some people would do well to keep in mind )
Outside of the reality which Jeans power brings about Jaspers is a victim:
granted yet you stand up for your idea like its your wife, or or freedom for christ sakes. I dun hate you for it just question your motives for your ever-hanping struggle to ironically keep the phoenix alive, lol
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i just knew this would turn into a "PF vs [....] thread" however..isnt franklyn supposed to replace eternity, or the celstials or something like that?... Cant recall, but wow Jim Jaspers is way up there tho. he does his thing under his own steam, so does franklyn, but hyperstorm was more powerful than all of them combined..so much so that, his energies were able to feed Galactus of that timeline, and was described as an "endless supply of raw energy"
Jean has to tap into the PF to surpass ppl in general..and im a big fan of phoenix but i always understood it as the PF chooses who it wants to be its avatar..i dont think i would go as far as to say that she literally "is" the PF, more so than a manifestation. but since its the most essential force in the universe it cant be beat, so if we're talking about mtuants at the fullest potential
my list:
Jean(PWC)
Hyperstorm
Franklin
Jaspers
Mr.M
Vulcan/Godlike Cable
Nate Grey
Q. Quire(he's still young,only time will tell how far he'll bump up the list)
Rachel Summers
All other omegas are irrelevant.. then id end with
Scarlet witch
Magento
Exodus as the most powerful alphas..... also i know that optimally rachel should be higher up as she has actually, successfully hosted the PF b4, but the thing is she has been at this for while now and she's been lazy with developing her powers, and let all others creep by her.
i agree with jaro's list but u cant forget new son eh...eh...lol
I also think with a little time,PIS-evolution Bishop will turn into a super energy manipulator, sorta like how mystique is supermorphing now. I seriously think its cuz of the less mutants around "Thanks Wanda...that b*tch" alot of mutans are going to start jumpstarting new powers/evolution out the ass. just wait and see. Cyke is gona lose the visor, yet keep red eyes, Iceman learns more tricks with vapor/hydro/ice kentics, Beast goes thru a another mutation. I mean anything just wait and see.
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Last edited by outavodka on Oct 24th, 2006 at 06:20 PM
I agree. Mutants are getting way too powerful. Gambit can control all forms of kinetic energy. Jubilee is going to start making atoms explode. Havok is going to have absolute control over cosmic energy. Leech is going to be able to absorb the powers of any being anywhere. It's getting ridiculous.
"a Network of interlocking Stasis Fields NEUTRALIZES the power of the N-Galaxy"....she was only able to knit the interlocking Stasis Fields back together
Phoenix even says, their "ONLY Hope is to Knit the Lattice Back Together BEFORE it PASSES the Point of No Return"
Actually Phoenix was getting ABSORBED by the N-Galaxy
"EACH X-MAN HAS a PLACE, EACH a purpose Greater than himself or herself"
SO ACCORDING to ISSUE itself, Straight from the WRITER'S Mouth.
XAVIER, COLOSSUS, WOLVERINE, KORSAIR, BANSHEE, CYCLOPS, STORM, and NIGHTCRAWLER, ALL GAVE their LIFE-FORCE to HELP Jean Knit the Lattice Back Together.
After the job is done, Even with the HELP of ALL the X-Men, Phoenix FALLS UNCONSCIOUS from Exhaustion
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