Arent they the kids with the lob sided fringes who look like alternative hairdresssers.
The ones who listen from the comfort of their middle class bedrooms to music which is a descendant of grunge but with all the good stuff taken out ??
E.g I hate myself and want to Dye my hair a touch of purple to go with the black?
The ones who are preferable to Chav kids with their Hip Hop n RnB but nearly as annoying.
hmm i only disslike the EMO´s like everyone else here.
they irritate me as hell, for an example 2 guys (EMO loosers) sat in the coutch next to ours at school. and i heard them talking about music and i heard "i only listen to EMO music" what the **** is emo music??? eventually it was some hardrock/punk i heard but WTF! just sai hardrock/metal/punk or whatever your listening to.
and yes they are wearing more make-up than most off the girls i know(like someone already posted earlier)
Which is, of course, false. As I have proven countless times and won't do so again, if only because it ends with you backing away. Majority does not decide a meaning, it has decided on an application that is incorrect.
A million people agreeing makes it no closer to being accurate. I accept that it will be used incorrectly, but at least accept that this IS what you're doing.
Because you know some stupid people, clearly. When did that stop becoming an option?
"I know people who say it, so therefore it's true.". So do you consider christianity a fact? That's like saying "If Santa doesn't exist, why do I know kids who claim to have seen him?".
The irony is, the people that idiots refer to as "emos" don't seem to moan and whine half as much as people who dislike them.
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You're fighting a lost cause, even if the definition of emo we've all embraced is wrong it's not going to change with a single person moaning about it. You and I have never had a conversation about the definition of the derogatory term "emo". Only the genre and yes, I did back away from that.
Didn't I also say they fit the stereotype? Their intelligence has nothing to do with it.
I consider the religion to be true, that doesn't meant that I find truth in what they believe. We're talking about a derogotary term here. If you started to use the word "paper" as an insult and the world embraced it, yes, it'd become an offensive word.
I have to agree with you on that front although this thread is probably not the best place to state it.
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I'm well aware I can't change the way it's being used today, even though it is incorrect. I accept that. I just think people should accept that it's a stupid, incorrect label. If you choose to use it still, then that's your own deal.
The incorrect use of emo isn't even a derogatory term, just a misused one. Some people use it as meaning someone who's over emotional, some people use it to describe people who have that AND dress according to a scene. The long term and correct phrase is simple to call these people scene kids, or trendwhores...or nothing. I don't even see why they simply must have a label, at the expense of it being wrong.
The only "emo" I recognise to exist is the one that is the genre, the original and only one. Not the one that has stemmed from being incorrect. But that's been done and dusted, my original point is as follows:
Neither does them fitting the stereotype. The actual style and type of person does exist, but the term itself is wrong. That's my point.
I'm not saying the kind of people we are discussing do not exist, I'm saying the word used to DESCRIBE them is wrong.
That's a stupid rationale, though. That's exactly why the world is f*cked up with censorship. Just because people get offended, doesn't mean it's offensive.
If you start allowing the majority to decide what is right or wrong, you're going to have a heavy bill. The majority do not decide what a word means, just how they react to it and how it's applied. Like "Emo", you see. The world has decided to apply it a certain way, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's not wrong.
That's a bit off topic, though. My main point, to save us getting into an impasse, is this: The kind of people labelled as "Emos" (The odd fringes, tight clothing etc) DO exist, but they just aren't called emos. I understand the stance of "It's easier to just go along than make an effort to challenge it.", but as soon as you accept one bs thing, you'll accept another.
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I completely understand where you're coming from.
My only real problem is the fact that you don't see Emo in the derogotory sense to be a real thing. Why is this? What needs to happen for you to see it as a real slang term. Just because a word has a genre of music under it's belt it doesn't mean that it can't have an alternate meaning for the stereotype you described.
How do you feel about the word Chav? That was founded through popular usage in rural areas. Just as most modern words have come across, if you are fine with this term then how is it any different to Emo?
I do see it as "real", I know it exists, I'm simply saying it shouldn't because it's stupid and incorrect.
Chav's modern use can be traced back to what it originally meant. Emo as a superficial derogatory term cannot be traced back to what it originally means, still means, and will always mean. We've been over this.
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