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Is there a Marvel Character.. ABOVE.. Pretcon Beyonder ?
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whats the deal with you people good god already grow the **** up all i said was LT more powerful thats all now everyone says i should get banned STFU you guys are the worst fanboy hypocrites in the world.
Your all worst than comixtreme , marvel.com, or comic book resources at least they kept discussions civil screw all of you and go to hell.

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whats the deal with you people good god already grow the **** up all i said was LT more powerful thats all now everyone says i should get banned STFU you guys are the worst fanboy hypocrites in the world.
Your all worst than comixtreme , marvel.com, or comic book resources at least they kept discussions civil screw all of you and go to hell.


...If the board is so bad, go ahead and do yourself a favor; get the **** out.

Problem solved.

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You do realize to an omnipotent and omnicient being like TOAA time has no meaning. All time is meaningless to him, and even if we dind't know about his infnite omniverse, he did and it was likely alwas there or he had the power to always make it. In either case, he easily has always been more powerful than the beyonder as I have been saying becuz the beyonder had a limit on his power, where as supreme beings have no limit. they are supreme and infinite in power in the truest sense of the word.


The Beyonder was Millions of times more powerful that the Marvel Reality, which was a Multiverse, (the Omniverse back then)


Beyonder's Multiverse was an Ocean,

and the Marvel Multiverse was a Drop of Water in comparison.


Surely if TOAA was so powerful back then,

he would have had a Multiverse that was atleast a Cup of Water laughing

not just a DROP eek!


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whats the deal with you people good god already grow the **** up all i said was LT more powerful thats all now everyone says i should get banned STFU you guys are the worst fanboy hypocrites in the world.
Your all worst than comixtreme , marvel.com, or comic book resources at least they kept discussions civil screw all of you and go to hell.


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...If the board is so bad, go ahead and do yourself a favor; get the **** out.

Problem solved.

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kiss my ass problem solved.

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laughing As always, Mr. Master, you are a voice of sanity in these insane times. By the way, was it you or someone else who did the excellent Marvel abstracts and cosmics thread? And can I get a link to that?


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The Beyonder was Millions of times more powerful that the Marvel Reality, which was a Multiverse, (the Omniverse back then)


Beyonder's Multiverse was an Ocean,

and the Marvel Multiverse was a Drop of Water in comparison.


Surely if TOAA was so powerful back then,

he would have had a Multiverse that was atleast a Cup of Water laughing

not just a DROP eek!


Your not using good logic. AN infinite being with all power does not expand his power. He can expand his creation. you are using the One above all's creation to quantify his power. That is just not correct. Also, the discovery of the omniverse is just that. It has always been there. And the beyonder was only so many times more powerful than the multiverse that houses the 616. Even he didn't know about the cosmic vortex. The supreme being does not ever grow in power or authority. it always is. And time has no meaning. If the one above creates a being more powerful than the LT right now, it is his power to retcon time and put the being at the begining of time as if it had always been. The beyonder was outclassed from the onset. he was NEVER truly omnipotent. Where as the one above all has ALWAYS been and will always be truly omnipotent. Hence the ONe above all is the one who retconned the beyonder.

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Beyonder and his realm were also part of the multiverse TOAA created. TOAA created the Beyonder too, he just didn't know it. For all we know there are infinite Beyonders with infinite multiverses for each one that TOAA created.


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laughing As always, Mr. Master, you are a voice of sanity in these insane times. By the way, was it you or someone else who did the excellent Marvel abstracts and cosmics thread? And can I get a link to that?


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Thank you. thumb up It's easily one of the best threads on the forum. Can we get this one put in the respect thread directory?

Let's continue ignoring Xmeat, shall we?


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p.s. there is a reason he's called the one above ALL, meaning no exceptions, There is no one who ever was or will be more powerful. Not even the pre retconned beyonder. To judge someone soley based on thier creation is rediculous. Should we base galactus off of his heralds? Until Tyrant came along, we didnt' even know galactus could create such a powerful being, but it was always with in him. Just becuz the one above chose not to reveale his omniverse back in 1985 doesn't mean he didn't create it then or he hadn't had the power.


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Your not using good logic. AN infinite being with all power does not expand his power. He can expand his creation. you are using the One above all's creation to quantify his power. That is just not correct.


Cause you say so?


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Also, the discovery of the omniverse is just that. It has always been there.


This is when you start making stuff up and everything gets flushed, cut it out, before it gets ugly.

The Omniverse was NOT discovered, NOTHING existed Outside the Multiverse,

the Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multiverse!!!


Just like the Omniverse is everything in Marvel Now.

So the Multi-verse was EVERYTHING upto May 84' and the Beyond Realm was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of the Marvel Multi-verse between May 1984 and Nov. 86'

Beyonder was All there was outside the Multiverse

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And the beyonder was only so many times more powerful than the multiverse that houses the 616.


"that houses 616?"

That was the ONLY Multiverse, there were NO other Realities, besides the Multiverse & the Beyond Realm.


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Even he didn't know about the cosmic vortex.


Only you must've,

because the Cosmic Vortex didn't even exist back then, that was created Years later.


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The supreme being does not ever grow in power or authority. it always is. And time has no meaning. If the one above creates a being more powerful than the LT right now, it is his power to retcon time and put the being at the begining of time as if it had always been. The beyonder was outclassed from the onset. he was NEVER truly omnipotent. Where as the one above all has ALWAYS been and will always be truly omnipotent. Hence the ONe above all is the one who retconned the beyonder.


Beyonder was EVERYTHING Outside the Multiverse ... EVERYTHING!!!

Where was TOAA?

He had to be somewhere Inside the Multiverse.


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Hmm, in that case, Marvel staff> Pre-retcon Beyonder. big grin

and Swerve, I'm told I'm the ONLY sane Apoc fan on this forum. And you have alot of gall calling me a 'suspect fan', you said Apoc could beat LT.


surely you knew i was jesting...but think about it...LT= spectre....who caught a ko from the batkick( i'm not knocking the batkick...its powerfull) so if APOC can beat batman... wink

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Thank you. thumb up It's easily one of the best threads on the forum.


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Can we get this one put in the respect thread directory?


I doubt it.


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surely you knew i was jesting...but think about it...LT= spectre....who caught a ko from the batkick( i'm not knocking the batkick...its powerfull) so if APOC can beat batman... wink

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?????


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WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?????


Batman > Spectre = LT

Apoc > Batman

Apoc > LT

Pretty simple really


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